IMO Johnson didn't really offer at the pitch, which is a big part of the reason why they were so pissed at the umps. Same with Stanton. I mean, TECHNICALLY his bat did break the plane of the plate in a forward motion, but only because he was tying to turn his body outside to get out of the way, he wasn't actually offering at the pitch. Obviously with both guys you can make the argument that they were swings at it, but to me it's not like he was taking a legitimate cut at the ball that hit him in the face. Same with Johnson. That was Redmond's argument: "Fiers' fastballs keep sailing at our guys faces and you're calling strikes when they turn their bodies (and hence the bat) to try to get out of the way. That's BS." I do think Fiers was acting like a dick after beaning two guys in a row, even though it wasn't intentional. And the pitch to Johnson was at his shoulders, so I think that's close enough to say "almost at the face". I can see the argument that Johnson didn't swing(the fact that it's even arguable mitigates how furious you should reasonably be about the pitch, IMO), but Stanton absolutely swung. It sucks for them, but in both cases if you feel they offered it has to be a strike. In either case though, there's a reason you don't see that happen all the time, and it's because the natural reaction to a fastball that's moving up and in is not to pull your left shoulder and expose your face/chest. I think there's a reasonable argument that Stanton had committed to the pitch, but I tend to think it was more like, his momentum had started forward with his stride, so when he realized it was coming at him, he couldn't make any real effort to stop the bat but rather was focused on trying to turn out the way. So to me it's kind of like, was that a swing AT THE PITCH (ie, he offered at it) or was it just incidental to his body movement to get out the way? Judgement call I guess. Same with Johnson, to a lesser degree though, I really don't think he offered at all. I guess if your body's momentum is going forward, your natural reaction would be to move in whater the fastest out of the way direction would be, which in that case would seem to be head down, body continuing outward. With no forward momentum, you'd probably turn inward with your back towards the pitch, which is what you see most often.