Actually, "us guys" are composed of people that: 1) love to slam young players before they ever have a chance 2) love to slam young players who don't fit a certain profile 3) give too much credit to young players when projecting their minor league numbers to the bigs 4) lots of other varieties of "us" You forgot the all-important category #5, which includes people who are massively sarcastic. When it became clear Vitters wasn't going to sign until late in the proceedings, I knew there was going to be an extraordinarily limited period of time to judge Vitters. Unless he came to Mesa and proceeded to tear the cover off the ball to an extraordinary degree, he pretty much was going to be #3 on my personal list no matter what. Next season is going to be critical for evaluating him. If he keeps in good shape and works hard in the offseason, then comes into Spring Training looking smooth in the field and at the plate, then he should start off in Peoria. From there, we'll have a full season with plenty of guys on this board getting a first-hand look at him. After next season, we'll have a better idea of what he's capable of. He has the potential to deliver in a big way, happily.