Outshined_One

He can't do much from the bench. :D

Do something good Ronny!

He needs to lean into one. Missed his opportunity.

Reed Johnson against a RHP? Uh oh.

Enough with the lefty righty crap Bob. Hoffpauir hits lefties just as well as righties.

Cubs lead! Go Kosuke-san!

I hope someone torches that damned parrot mascot costume. The incessant hip thrusting is annoying.

Cubs don't have a top 5 pick though. If only they could take Alvarez at 19...sigh. But, I was talking about Pedro playing for the Pirates.

Yeah, right. Isn't there some closer who projects as a middle reliever that they can snatch up to save money instead? They usually reach on a LHP. Christian Friedrich would fit the bill. However, the new management stated they were going to make a statement in this draft and take the top player on their board, regardless of salary demands.

Pedro Alvarez just hit a bases clearing double. Rather than go back in time, I prefer to look to the future!

I think your son could go 3/4 against Marquis with two home runs at this point. :lol: Bobby Bonilla just went yard. It was a three run homer. Marquis gave up a double to Sid Bream and a walk to Doug Drabek earlier in the inning.

I think your son could go 3/4 against Marquis with two home runs at this point. :lol:

It was about medium-depth. There probably would have been a play at the plate.

Cashner is probably going to be the second college closer taken after Joshua Fields. He's good enough that he could be a September callup. For those of you interested or bored, Witchita State/Missouri State is on Comcast right now. WSU 3B/OF Conor Gillaspie is a player of note and could be a possibility for the Cubs with their sandwich pick. In watching this game, I see why scouts are torn on Gillaspie sticking at 3B. He has a very good arm and soft hands, but man, his instincts are crap. One game does not make a player, but it looks like he needs a good amount of coaching and reps out there. However, Gillaspie's bat is very good. He chokes up slightly and has an exaggerated crouch in his batting stance. Quick trigger, good pitch recognition. He just hit a no-doubter home run, to boot. The guy also has some nice speed on the basepaths. He's definitely the athletic type that fits the Wilken mold, imo.

Tampa's 8 run ninth against Daytona:

Box Scores Iowa lost 6-0 Box Score 2B E. Patterson 0/2, BB, 2 K, HBP CF F. Pie 0/4 LF M. Murton 3/4, 2B (5) RF J. Kroeger 0/4, K 3B C. McGehee 0/4, K SP K. Hart 4 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 4/2 K/BB, HR, 4-3 GO-FO RP C. Shaver 2 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 2/1 K/BB, 2-2 GO-FO RP C. Pignatiello 1 scoreless, 1 H, 0/1 K/BB, 2-0 GO-FO Tennessee won 3-2 Box Score 3B K. Reynolds 0/4, K, E (8, throw) CF T. Colvin 0/4 1B M. Craig 1/3, R RF D. Deeds 1/2, BB, R, 2 RBI, HR (4), SB (1) LF J. Fox 0/3, K C S. Clevenger 1/3, 2B (5) SS/3B M. Matulia 0/3, R, SB (1), E (3, fielding) PH/SS M. Camp 1/1 SP M. Atkins 7 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 6/0 K/BB, HR, 5-8 GO-FO RP J. Samardzija .1 IP, 2 H, 0-1 GO-FO Daytona won 4-2 Box Score CF J. Wyatt 1/4, BB, RBI, K 2B T. Thomas 1/5, R, 2B (8), CS (3), E (5, fielding) DH T. Wright 2/5, R, RBI, K RF Y. Carter 0/3, BB, K C W. Castillo 1/4, RBI, 2 K, E (5, throw) 3B J. Lansford 2/4 SS D. Barney 2/3, BB, R, 3B (1), SB (2) SP M. Mateo 3 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 2/3 K/BB, WP, 2-5 GO-FO RP A. Harben 3 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 3/0 K/BB, 2 WP, 1-5 GO-FO RP C. Lambert 1 scoreless, 1 H, 2/0 K/BB, 0-1 GO-FO Peoria won 5-4 Box Score DH E. Lara 1/5, R, RBI SS N. Samson 1/3, 2 R, 2B (6), E (12, throw), HBP LF B. Guyer 1/4, K, CS (1) 3B J. Rosa 1/2, BB, RBI, HBP 2B M. Smith 2/4, RBI RF D. Johnston 1/3, BB, R, RBI, HR (7), 2 K CF L. Johnson 1/4 SP A. Cabrera 5 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 5/2 K/BB, 5-5 GO-FO OVERALL: 3-1

There are other Nolan Ryans?

I'm just as confused as you are. But hey, if Colvin ends the season with an OBP over .400, I don't think any of us will complain.

Except that it's not. He never had a season with a significant number of starts where he's more than 2 games under .500. Look at who else has been number 5 or better on the Cubs recently -- Rusch? Mitre? Estes? Maddux? Clement? They are all still floating around, and though Maddux is a wonder, Marquis is a clear upgrade on the others. Look at it this way, if your #5 starter is two games under .500, and your #4 starter is at .500, it's reasonable to expect your team to be at least 20 games over .500, with a strong performance from the pan and the rest of the rotation. Zambrano and Dempster have held up their ends this year, the others haven't. Yet, the problem in the rotation is the number 5 starter, even though they are .500 in his starts, and he has a better ERA than Lilly? There is every reason to believe Marquis will get bumped in the second half. Until then, he is performing exactly as would have been expected -- as a major league #5 starter. And no one has done enough to take that job away from him. We're picking starters based on W/L record? Wow. Well how else is one supposed to value a pitcher's worth? You act like there are other statistics (that are not team dependent) that are indicative of a pitcher's performance as an individual contributor. :blink: This should be in sarcastic green. Sorry, I'm from St. Louis. Morans around here must be having a negative influence on me. I fixed the post. Just for clarification, I think Mojopin's post should also be in green. :lol:

:lol: at AZPhil calling him the "mighty mite". Well, it's nice to have someone in this system who can hit for power and does so during games!

I did a bit of digging on Z vs. Bay. Here are some fun numbers to take into consideration. Bay's line versus Z by year... 2003: 3 PA, 3 H, 1 2B, 2 HR (1.000/1.000/3.333) 2004: 10 PA, 2 H, 1 2B, 1 HR, 2 BB, 3 K (.250/.400/.750) 2005: 11 PA, 2 H, 3 BB, 2 K (.255/.455/.250) 2006: 8 PA, 2 H, 1 2B, 1 K (.250/.250/.375) 2007: 9 PA, 3 H, 1 2B, 2 HR, 2 BB (.429/.556/1.429) 2008: 3 PA, 1 BB (.000/.333/.000) Amusing how these things tend to fluctuate back and forth.

Frankly, with this offense performing the way it has been, the Cubs can afford to let Gallagher develop at the major league level. Perhaps he might benefit from a few more starts at AAA, but if keeping him in the majors for this season means he'll be a bit more developed come 2009 and 2010, then all the better. At the very least, there are some long term benefits to be had. With Marquis...we pretty much know what to expect out of him by now. Frankly, it's pretty bad. Gallagher might be equally bad now, but I'll take the potential long term benefits over that.

Box Scores Iowa won 1-0 Box Score 2B E. Patterson 1/4, R, 2B (9), 2 K, SB (6) CF F. Pie 0/4, K LF M. Murton 2/4, RBI, SB (2) DH J. Dubois 0/4, K RF J. Kroeger 0/3, BB, K 3B C. McGehee 0/3, K SP R. Keisler 8 scoreless, 3 H, 7/3 K/BB, 13-3 GO-FO Tennessee won 8-3 Box Score CF S. Fuld 2/5, R, RBI, 2B (1), K SS M. Camp 1/5, R, CS (6), PO (1B) RF T. Colvin 1/4, BB, R, RBI, K 1B M. Craig 1/3, 2 BB, 2 R, RBI, K LF J. Fox 0/3, R, K, HBP 3B K. Reynolds 1/4, R, RBI, K 2B M. Matulia 0/3, BB PH D. Deeds 0/1 SP J. Russell 5 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 6/1 K/BB, HR, 3-6 GO-FO Daytona lost 12-8 thanks to an 8 run 9th by Tampa Box Score 2B J. Mota 2/4, R LF T. Wright 2/4, R, RBI CF J. Wyatt 0/1, K C W. Castillo 2/5, R, RBI, 2B (6), K PR/1B M. Reed 0/1, K, CS (2) RF R. Harvey 0/2, 2 BB, K DH R. Canzler 1/4, RBI, K PR/DH T. Thomas 0/0, R 3B J. Lansford 1/4, R, K, SB (1) SS D. Barney 1/4, 2 RBI, 2B (9) SP M. Carrillo 6 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 4/2 K/BB, 2 HR, 8-6 GO-FO RP J. Papelbon 0 IP, 3 H, 4 ER, 0/1 K/BB Peoria won 5-2 Box Score LF C. Andersen 0/4, 2 K SS N. Samson 1/4, 2 RBI DH B. Guyer 0/4, K 3B J. Rosa 2/4 2B M. Smith 1/4, R, RBI, HR (4) RF D. Johnston 1/2, BB, 2 R, K, E (3, fielding), 2 assists (3B, home) CF L. Johnson 1/3, 2 RBI, SB (5), CS (5) SP C. Siegfried 3 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1/1 K/BB, 2-3 GO-FO RP K. Kreier 4 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 4/0 K/BB, 3-4 GO-FO OVERALL: 3-1

That can easily be construed as a death threat, especially when done to a teacher.

He had mono. I remember getting it in college. It's bad. My body felt like a lead weight. Moreover, certain people here are ripping him non-stop. They happily contribute their two cents any time something bad happens to Vitters.