Outshined_One

I dig the promotion, but there's something enormously ironic about this. Link

Considering Hill's value is at an all-time low, I'd rather wait and see if he can get back on track before we consider throwing him under the bus as a throw-in for a trade.

LaPorta is the only Brewers name the Cubs can't match, imo. Green and Cain aren't anything special. Gamel and Escobar? I meant among those three names mentioned in the rumored deal. Green is not going to be sticking at 3B and will lose quite a bit of value when he moves into the OF. Cain has primarily played RF and hasn't shown anything close to the power and hitting needed to be of any value there. The Cubs can't match Gamel or LaPorta. And, frankly, Escobar is not as valuable as people think. He doesn't hit for much power and his IsoD is putrid. I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be Ronny Cedeno II.

LaPorta is the only Brewers name the Cubs can't match, imo. Green and Cain aren't anything special.

A win here would be a good way to drive the point home about who the best team in this division is. Let's do that. :D

I <3 Justin Bristow.

Box Scores Iowa lost 7-3 Box Score 2B E. Patterson 2/4, BB, 2 R, 2B (15) CF F. Pie 2/4, BB 1B M. Hoffpauir 2/4, R, 2 RBI, 2B (14) DH J. Dubois 1/5, RBI, 2 K 3B C. McGehee 1/4 RF J. Kroeger 1/4, 2B (21), K SP R. Wells 6 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 5/1 K/BB, HR, 7-6 GO-FO Tennessee lost 5-2 Box Score CF S. Fuld 0/3, 2 BB, R, K RF D. Deeds 1/4 LF J. Fox 0/3, BB, K 1B M. Craig 1/3, BB, RBI C W. Castillo 2/4, R, 2B (6) 3B J. Lansford 0/4, K SP J. Russell 6 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 3/1 K/BB, HR, 13-1 GO-FO RP J. Ceda 1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 0-3 GO-FO Daytona won 5-4 in the 11th Box Score 2B T. Thomas 0/5 PR/1B R. Canzler 0/0, R LF Y. Carter 0/5, R, K 1B/C S. Clevenger 2/4, BB, R, RBI 3B J. Mota 1/5, R, 2 RBI, K RF R. Harvey 1/4, BB, RBI, 2B (7) SS D. Barney 0/4, RBI, E (11, fielding) SP G. Johnson 5 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 4/0 K/BB, HR, HBP, 7-2 GO-FO Peoria lost 9-2 Box Score CF J. Wyatt 2/3, R, RBI, SB (8), CS (4) SS N. Samson 0/4, K, E (21, fielding) 3B M. Smith 1/4, RBI 1B J. Rosa 0/3 C J. Donaldson 0/3, E (8, fielding) LF E. Lara 0/3, K RF D. Rundle 1/3, R, 2B (5) 2B G. Guzman 1/3 SP J. Pina 2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 2/0 K/BB, 3-1 GO-FO Boise won 4-3 Box Score 2B J. Harrison 1/4, BB, K CF K. Calvert 2/5, R, 2 K, PO (1B) 3B J. Vitters 3/3, 2 BB, 2 RBI, 2B (5), CS (1), PO (1B) 1B R. Keedy 1/4, BB, RBI, K DH R. Ridling 0/4, K, PO (1B) RF K. Burke 0/4, 2 K M. Brenly 1/4, R, K SS M. Gonzalez 2/4, R, SB (3) LF R. Sontag 1/3, R, RBI SP H. Tolentino 3 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 3/3 K/BB, 3-2 GO-FO RP M. Pawelek 3 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 1/0 K/BB, HBP, 6-2 GO-FO RP D. McDaniel .2 hitless/scoreless, 1/1 K/BB, WP, 0-1 GO-FO AZL Cubs with an off day. DSL Cubs 1 won 5-1 Box Score DSL Cubs 2 won 5-2 Box Score OVERALL: 4-3

We just won with Wood. Again.

Awesome win tonight. :D

include Soto. not saying he should be dealt, but he's the obvious high-value rookie type if you're making lists. Don't forget Theriot.

The problem with challenging Kosuke is that he can drive pitches, especially on the inner half. He has enough power to hit gappers and home runs when he gets pitches on the inner and middle portions of the strike zone, especially pitches that are thigh-high and above in the zone. Kosuke's biggest problem has been handling breaking balls low and away, especially if a pitcher can get strike one with it. He'll chase those, especially in a pitcher's count. However, the problem with going away-away-away with Kosuke is that he'll lay off those pitches in hitter's counts and umpires are not always generous with calling those pitches.

He'd probably want his 2010 option picked up, but that's not a bad idea. Hudson would be a better option than Burnett and Harden.

Two massive egos in one booth usually does not make for good broadcasts.

Thank you! I seriously do not get why people are fellating Escobar the way they have been. It's not to say that he's a bad prospect or anything, but I do not think the guy will end up being a top-flight SS when all is said and done. I just don't see it.

Frankly, I don't think Escobar is much more valuable than Cedeno. Everything about Escobar's numbers are driven by a high batting average and his patience at the plate is rather atrocious. He's not ready and he probably will never be productive at the major league level until he learns how to draw walks. Lillibridge could be an interesting player down the line, but he's not much younger than Cedeno and has far less ML experience than Cedeno. Plus, there's not a whole lot of power there. Neither of those guys are much better than Cedeno, quite frankly. If you think either of them could get it done, but Cedeno can't, I'd like to hear your reasoning.

Box Scores Iowa won 11-9 Box Score 2B E. Patterson 1/4, BB, 2 R, 2B (14), SB (11) CF F. Pie 4/5, R, RBI, CS (3) 1B M. Hoffpauir 3/4, BB, R, 4 RBI, 2B (13), HR (8) 3B C. McGehee 1/5, 2 R RF J. Kroeger 2/5, RBI SP J. Samardzija 6.1 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 6/3 K/BB, HR, 7-6 GO-FO Tennessee lost 6-0 Box Score SS M. Camp 1/3 CF T. Colvin 0/4 LF J. Fox 3/4, 2 2B (17), K 1B M. Craig 0/3, BB, 2 K RF D. Deeds 0/4, K C M. Reed 0/4 3B J. Lansford 1/2, BB SP E. Caridad 5.2 IP, 10 H, 6 ER, 2/1 K/BB, 3 HR, HBP, 6-9 GO-FO (heh heh) RP M. Holliman 1.1 perfect, 1/0 K/BB, 3-0 GO-FO RP C. Lambert 1 scoreless, 2 H, 1/0 K/BB, 2-0 GO-FO Daytona lost 4-1 Box Score 2B T. Thomas 1/4, 2B (21), K 3B J. Mota 1/3, BB, K C S. Clevenger 0/3, BB, CS (3) 1B R. Canzler 0/3, BB, 2 K LF Y. Carter 1/3, R, RBI, HR (9), K RF R. Harvey 0/3 SS D. Barney 0/3 SP M. Mateo 5 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 4/2 K/BB, HR, 6-5 GO-FO Peoria won 9-7 Box Score SS N. Samson 3/5, 2B (10), CS (7), PO (1B) RF E. Lara 1/3, BB, R, K, CS (6), PO (1B) 3B M. Smith 1/4, BB, 2 R 1B J. Rosa 2/5, R, 2 RBI, 2B (26) LF B. Guyer 2/3, BB, RBI, K, HBP CF D. Rundle 0/4, R, 4 K, HBP 2B G. Guzman 2/5, 2 R, 3 RBI, 2 HR (2) SP A. Santana 4 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 4/2 K/BB, WP, HBP, 4-4 GO-FO RP J. Latham 2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 1/0 K/BB, 4-1 GO-FO Boise won 3-0 Box Score 2B J. Harrison 1/3, BB, R, K, SB (6) CF K. Calvert 2/4, K, CS (1) 3B J. Vitters 0/4, 2 K SS R. Flaherty 0/3, BB, R, K DH R. Ridling 3/4, R, 2 RBI, HR (3) 1B R. Keedy 0/3, BB RF K. Burke 0/3, 2 K C L. Flores 0/2, BB LF R. Sontag 1/3, K, PO (1B) SP I. Camacaro 4 scoreless, 1 H, 5/2 K/BB, Balk, 5-2 GO-FO RP J. Bristow 2 scoreless, 2 H, 4/0 K/BB, 2-0 GO-FO RP J. Beliveau 2 scoreless, 2 H, 2/0 K/BB, 3-1 GO-FO AZL Cubs won 3-2 Box Score CF T. Willis 1/4, 2 R, BB C M. Cerda 0/1, BB - left game top 6th for defensive substitution C J. Guevara 2/4, R, 2B (1), RBI RF N. Perez 2/3, 2B (3), RBI 2B G. Matheus 2/3, 3B (2), K SP C. Redmond 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 K/1 BB, 2 GO-0 FO RP J. Peña 4 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 2 K/2 BB, 4 GO-5 FO DSL Cubs 1 lost 2-1 Box Score RP J. Tineo 1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 1 K/0 BB DSL Cubs 2 lost 11-9 Box Score SS C. Morales 3/4, R, 2 2B (5), RBI, BB, K SP L. Liria 4 IP, 6 H, 5 ER, 6 K/0 BB, HBP, 2 WP, 2 HR, 6 GO-0 FO OVERALL: 4-4 Kangaroos won 5-3, box: RF S. Williams 1/3, R, RBI, 2 BB, K Happy 4th of July, everyone!

This thread makes me wince.

BA has Shafer signed.

I enjoy the fact that Peoria is 10-5 in the second half of the season while in the midst of a 10 game winning streak.

I'm guessing it involves Griffey.

It's tough to tell. He apparently was quite productive in EXST and has had a good showing in the AZL so far, but the guy is 5'8 (and apparently ripped). He's young enough that he still might grow a few inches, but it is hard to tell whether the guy will ever be able to hit for meaningful power in his career. Everything else sounds pretty good, though. We'll see if he can stick at SS and whether he'll continue to be a switch hitter as he gets older, though.

So I imagine that they will just have a new Seattle Sonics team in a year or two then? The Memphis Grizzlies are a good candidate to move.

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Box Scores: Iowa won 9-6 Box Score CF F. Pie 0/5, E (4, fielding) LF J. Dubois 2/4, BB, 2 R, 2B (5), 2 K 1B M. Hoffpauir 2/4, R, RBI, 2 2B (12), 2 K 3B C. McGehee 3/3, BB, 2 R, 4 RBI, HR (10) RF J. Kroeger 2/3, 2 RBI, 2B (20) SP JR Mathes 5.2 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 1/4 K/BB, 2 HR, 11-5 GO-FO Tennessee lost 4-0 Box Score SS M. Camp 0/3, BB CF T. Colvin 1/4, PO (1B) 1B M. Craig 1/4, K RF D. Deeds 0/3, BB LF J. Fox 0/3, HBP C M. Reed 0/3 PH J. Lansford 0/1, K SP A. Maestri 6 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 5/1 K/BB, 2 HR, WP, 7-6 GO-FO Daytona won 12-3 Box Score 2B T. Thomas 3/5, 3 RBI, 2B (20), K LF T. Wright 1/4, BB, 3 R, 2B (12), K, SB (5) 1B S. Clevenger 1/5, R, RBI, K RF Y. Carter 2/3, BB, R, RBI, 2B (10) DH R. Harvey 2/4, R, RBI, 2B (6), K 3B J. Mota 1/3, BB, R, 2B (5), K SP B. Muldowney 5 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 7/1 K/BB, 3-5 GO-FO Peoria won 5-4 Box Score CF J. Wyatt 0/5, K SS N. Samson 3/5, 2B (9) 3B M. Smith 1/4, BB, R, 3 K 1B J. Rosa 1/5, 2 R, 2B (25), K LF B. Guyer 1/4, K C J. Donaldson 2/4, RBI, K, SB (7) RF C. Andersen 0/3, K, HBP 2B E. Lara 0/3, BB, K SP J. Jackson 4 scoreless, 3 H, 5/1 K/BB, 4-3 GO-FO RP J. Muyco 2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 2/0 K/BB, HR, 3-1 GO-FO Boise lost 7-4 Box Score CF K. Calvert 0/3, RBI, K, HBP 2B J. Opitz 0/3, BB, K DH J. Vitters 1/4, R, 2B (4), K SS R. Flaherty 1/4, CS (1) 1B R. Ridling 2/4, RBI, K PR/RF R. Sontag 0/0, R RF K. Burke 0/3, K PH J. Harrison 1/1, RBI 3B M. Gonzalez 1/4, 2 R, 3B (1) C L. Flores 1/4 LF D. Macias 2/4, 2B (2), K SP J. Whitlock 4.2 IP, 3 H, 4 ER, 6/3 K/BB, 2 HR, 2-5 GO-FO RP B. O'Donnell 1.1 IP, 2 H, 3 ER, 0/3 K/BB, HR, 3-1 GO-FO Mesa lost 9-8, box: DH M. Cerda 2/4, 2 2B (2), RBI, BB 1B S. Hoorelbeke 3/4, 2 R, 2B (3), BB, K, E (1, missed catch) 3B J. Contreras 2/5, R, 2B (3), RBI RF N. Perez 2/5, R, 2B (2), HR (1), 3 RBI, K, OF assist at home LF J. Jones 2/5, R, CS (1) 2B D. Kemp 2/4, 2 R, 2 2B (4), RBI, BB, SB (2) SP O. Martinez 1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 0 K/2 BB, 0 GO-1 FO RP R. Carmona 3 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 2 K/1 BB, 3 GO-3 FO RP J. Antigua 1+ IP, 6 H, 5 ER, 1 K/ 1 BB, 1 GO-1 FO - faced 4 batters in the 6th; all scored DSL Cubs 1 won 8-4 Box Score DSL Cubs 2 lost 4-1 Box Score OVERALL: 4-4 Kangaroos won game one 4-3, box: RF S. Williams 2/3, SB (2) SP R. Searle 5 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 7 K/0 BB, WP, 3 GO-5 FO, 82 pitches (52 strikes) Kanagaroos won game two 5-4, box: RF S. Williams 1/2, R, RBI, 2B (6)

A combination of graduations (Gallagher, Marshall, Soto), injuries (Rhee, Suarez), untimely slumps (Colvin, Donaldson, Pie, Cedeno, Hill), and being massively overhyped (Samardzija, Harvey) has hurt quite a bit. The past two drafts have re-stocked things from a quantity perspective, but from a quality perspective, things have not panned out as hoped.