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Starlin Fan, say something about how we won't score 5 runs in the 11th -
DO NOT [expletive] CALL FOR ANOTHER IBB
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Please.
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I'd prefer for Len to never tell a Marlins story.
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Nailed it
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I laughed.
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Ideally the farm system wouldn't have been so bad or we could spend $200m every year on the ML payroll. But as much as it sucks knowing the team won't compete, I'm willing to spend a couple years letting the FO build a sustainable system. You may not be willing to give them that time without competing sooner. Yep, those are the 2 options. Be a sucky bunch of sucks, or spend 200M on payroll. ETA: Just because you're arguing against Kyle doesn't mean you're not being as Kyle as he is. ETA: And the payroll thing is the biggest annoyance of all for me. Why Tom Ricketts is getting such a pass on this is maddening.
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I just don't see how the team is ever supposed to get better by exclusively signing younger guys who you can trade away. None of the guys we'll be trading in July are going to bring back a great return and 2014 looks really bleak to me right now which is just silly.
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This stupidity is why I chimed in on Kyle's message about backup MIF The Cubs got ~ negative 1 bWAR from their 3B last year, and Ramirez put up 5.6. If you take the Cubs 69 win pace from when they stopped trying you've got a 75-76 win team. And that takes us from Gray/Appel to someone like Austin Meadows. And Ramirez is untradeable even with a great year. And we still don't have a long-term answer for third base. Right, because what's important is not spending money and getting high draft picks until...some point in the future when it's not important. How angry were you about the contracts we signed this offseason? Once pythagoras balances out those players of actual worth are going to kill us in the always hilarious fecal league.
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How much do you think our 78 win PECTOA projection grows with Ramirez at 3B vs. what we actually came into the season with? Is a team projected to put up 81 wins enough to actually attempt to compete?
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This stupidity is why I chimed in on Kyle's message about backup MIF The Cubs got ~ negative 1 bWAR from their 3B last year, and Ramirez put up 5.6. If you take the Cubs 69 win pace from when they stopped trying you've got a 75-76 win team. I'm not trying to be condescending here, but what good does that actually do? Do you think Aramis is likely to do that for the next 2 years as well? It puts the team within thinking of possibly having a chance at making the playoffs at some point this decade.
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This stupidity is why I chimed in on Kyle's message about backup MIF The Cubs got ~ negative 1 bWAR from their 3B last year, and Ramirez put up 5.6. If you take the Cubs 69 win pace from when they stopped trying you've got a 75-76 win team. Amazing. He out ops'd zips by nearly 1.000. He was projected by pecota for a 2.2 WAR which he more than doubled. He even exceeded Bill James predictions. Look if Theo knew what ARam would do in 2012 he likely signs him last year. But hindsight is helpful here. Given the information available I don't think I would have signed him to that contract either. What do I know though. Those 76 wins would have jumped us up 0 spots in the standings last year. Guess I'm the dummy. Right, unless a move (even one that's a great value like ARam) puts you at 90 wins, you shouldn't make it. Again, I ask how furious you were over all those free agents we signed this offseason? Hoho, hehe, how stupid for us to sign a competent RF this year!! So glad we'll win 71 this year instead of 67!!
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This stupidity is why I chimed in on Kyle's message about backup MIF The Cubs got ~ negative 1 bWAR from their 3B last year, and Ramirez put up 5.6. If you take the Cubs 69 win pace from when they stopped trying you've got a 75-76 win team.
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This stupidity is why I chimed in on Kyle's message about backup MIF
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Yeah, I didn't. The argument is the same argument that's been going since last December when people decided it was a good idea to continue to not spend money because we don't have a great chance at making the playoffs. PECOTA projected the Cubs at 6 games out of a playoff spot and you're all, we had no chance anyway so why bother?
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So best case scenario (some admittedly not very far-fetched) for 7 guys?
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Yeah, I didn't. The argument is the same argument that's been going since last December when people decided it was a good idea to continue to not spend money because we don't have a great chance at making the playoffs.
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Oh well good to know, because that's important. A lot of people were preferring management to indiscriminately, irresponsibly throw money everywhere. Kyle is wanting a better bench and a better pen. Trying to be frugal is going to wind up as a crapshoot, where you hopefully find a few guys that may stick longterm. Adding truly proven bench or bullpen guys IS spending money just for the sake of spending it. Adding 5 wins or so to last year or this years team doesn't matter. When we have enough of a foundation(hoping next year) then adding a couple of 3 mill a year bench bats and 4-5 mill a year relievers MAY be a necessity. Hopefully not though, because it'd be much better to constantly fill those spots from within, to where the true bulk of your payroll goes towards impact guys. What do you see happening between now and November that makes it worth spending money on a bullpen?
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No.
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Are you really arguing that if a team doesn't have a decent chance to make the playoffs they shouldn't bother putting anything respectable out there in key positions? no we're arguing that if you're at very slim odds to seriously contend, you don't indiscriminately, irresponsibly throw money everywhere in the improbable hopes of defying the odds here's an exercise that'll make you feel more at peace: Travis Wood's outproduced CJ Wilson per bWAR since the start of last season; pretend to yourself that we're paying him $80M to do so and you'll feel much, much happier about management's level of devotion and effort similarly, when Rizzo produces similarly to Pujols & Fielder the next several years as he's projected to do, convince yourself that we're paying him $200-$250M to do so and you'll assuredly be pleased as punch about it I don't have time to be so thrilled about these hypotheticals because I've been enjoying the 2013 Cubs too much.
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I take it you don't think we should spend money on the pen in 2014 either
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But every season is sacred. Of course your team has no chance of making the playoffs when you don't bother to bring in any cost certainty to highly variable spots. I HATE this logic which keeps getting repeated around here. Oh what, you wanted to sign that guy and improve by 4 wins? Whoopdee doo, now you won 65 games last year. You don't build a team by looking at your zIPS projection, and if win total < 75, don't try. ETA: And when arguing the point be sure to reference the worst contract at said position as your supporting evidence. the "cost certainty" is that you'll pay $5M-$5.5M per win, which when it could easily be argued we needed to add 30 wins to be actual contenders would have been utter lunacy to chase I was told the front office didn't really do a bad job last year because they were on a ~70 win pace when they decided to trade everyone and shut down Shark, so really the team wasn't that awful. I don't think we needed to win 100 games to be "contenders"
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Are you really arguing that if a team doesn't have a decent chance to make the playoffs they shouldn't bother putting anything respectable out there in key positions? How pissed off were you about the Fujikawa contract? What a [expletive] waste right? And don't get me started on wasting our time with Nate Schierholtz and Scott Hairston. Not to mention Scott Feldman God, we could've made even more money if we didn't bother with these guys. Don't they know our PECOTA had us at 73 wins? What the [expletive] was the point?
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But every season is sacred. Of course your team has no chance of making the playoffs when you don't bother to bring in any cost certainty to highly variable spots. I HATE this logic which keeps getting repeated around here. Oh what, you wanted to sign that guy and improve by 4 wins? Whoopdee doo, now you won 65 games last year. You don't build a team by looking at your zIPS projection, and if win total < 75, don't try. ETA: And when arguing the point be sure to reference the worst contract at said position as your supporting evidence.
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I love how wildly the value fluctuates within each category. Ok you guys can have either Travis Wood or Barrett Loux.
