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Good start, steve

Did anybody else notice the girl in the stands wearing the "U" shirt in C-U-B-S after the Rammy hit? She was jumping up and down... :shock:she's going to have back problems later in life

too bad if it's not a terrible throw, lee would have been out

as is Pujols, I believe. And nobody in MLB believes Pujols is the age he proclaims. Riii-iight, the same Albert Pujols who was born in the Dominican Republic. Who later moved to Kansas City in 1996, graduated from a high school there, enrolled in a community college to play baseball, and became a US citizen in 2007? Got news for you, Albert is the age he says he is. Because today, after 9/11, you can't become a US citizen without real, verified documentation. *snicker*

:D

Don't forget, he was the worst outfielder we've had at picking a ball off the ground in... well, I have no idea how long. Still, he was decent at catching and, in his last year, a heck of a hitter.

"Clutch pitching" is probably just another way to say "good pitching." Pitching is an endurance match and an intellectual exercise. Any worthwhile study would have decent sample sizes and controls for quality of opposition. So you don't know if clutch pitching exists, you assume it doesn't, and you use that assumption to conclude that clutch hitting doesn't exist. That's terrible. It certainly isn't science. I assume there's room for some sort of clutch pitching and that it doesn't make much sense that hitters would consistently hold something back in certain situations. Also, that if we have enough hitters and data that they would all face "clutch" and "un-clutch" pitching if it exists. Maybe we're defining things differently, because I'm not following you. You need to know which hitters faced clutch pitchers when, if either category exists, to adjust their hitting stats. It's not a matter of holding things back, it's a matter of the two canceling each other out over the years. Hitter A faces neutral clutch pitchers one year and winds up having good clutch numbers. Next year he faces good clutch pitchers and is below expectations. Studies don't make any note of this because they cannot with current designs

"Clutch pitching" is probably just another way to say "good pitching." Pitching is an endurance match and an intellectual exercise. Any worthwhile study would have decent sample sizes and controls for quality of opposition. So you don't know if clutch pitching exists, you assume it doesn't, and you use that assumption to conclude that clutch hitting doesn't exist. That's terrible. It certainly isn't science. Seriously, until someone finds a way to do a statistically relevant study to control for clutch pitching, this entire argument (both sides) is without evidence.

Really depends on your definition of "cousin"

I don't have to prove it. Smarter people than myself have already done that. I'm just trying to throw some rationale into the discussion. If you want to prove that clutch exists, you could make quite a name for yourself. Speaking of the burden of proof being on you, is it even true that closers are worse in non-save situations? please point to the studies that control for clutch pitching

To refute this, I'm saying that a player's performance does not shift whether or not there is a base runner on or not. The fact that his numbers are different with runners on is all just a matter of coincidence. A player doesn't suddenly gain better offensive ability (or worse), based on the situation at hand, i just cannot believe that theory. Wait, you actually can't believe that it's possible that there exists a player who performs either better or worse under different levels of pressure? Not just "I don't think the evidence supports it" but "I don't see how there could be a mechanism in place for this to be so" That's tremendously weird. I don't see how it could be possible that every player in baseball could be completely unaffected by differing levels of pressure, personally. That's not what he's saying at all and you know it.he said it in plain english and never took it back. He's wrong. uote="weis21"] why not? They are both sports that in particular cases ask a person to perform in a high pressure situation. Where is the grey area? If you can't compare the situation to other sports, then what can you compare it to? And if its incomparable, it's impossible to make an argument for either side. Tie your shoelaces. Now I'm pointing a gun at your head. Tie your shoelaces. I'm crazy. You know I'll shoot if you don't do it in exactly the same time as you did before. I'm sujre there will be no difference. now, adjust for the clutchness of the pitchers he faced and what he considers to be clutch situations. Crap, you can't do that because you don't knnow how, do you? You'd have to believe that people never perform adversely under severe pressure to believe that no one is anti-clutch I don't follow this line of thinking at all. How do you acknowledge that some players are negatively affected by high pressure situations, yet at the same time say that those that are affected in a positive way are just random occurrences. Seriously, this makes zero sense. If that were the case, wouldn't they be good all the time? It makes complete sense. not if they weren't under the same stress level at the whole time

Explain how it does in baseball? Its more about who you are playing. The Brewers limped into this series with the Cardinals after 2 devastating defeats. They seem to not be having a problem after that, why? Because the Cards pitching staff is terrible and they are a AAA offense, it has nothing to do with momentum. when you say "more about who you are playing" you are saying "momentum does matter" Anyway, I'll say there's probably a rather small effect from momentum.

'If we keep hitting into the playoffs, it's just the right time. If we stop, it was too early. It's not like using nitrous in... what was that old arcade racing game? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ THIS? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Off_Road Now that is a lurker. Nailed it

'If we keep hitting into the playoffs, it's just the right time. If we stop, it was too early. It's not like using nitrous in... what was that old arcade racing game?

they said it was cramping and there's suspicion that there was nothing wrong with him

Well, that was a thoroughly enjoyable game.

triple!\ Kind of surprised he didn't go for it.

ew.

Foul pop

Is it me or does murton get a weird number of infield hits

That's a hundred pitches

The old man can still hit doubles

He is really sticking to that one spot with his pitches

terrible pitch to swing at, even if you do get a hit

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