Okay, well it's your own fault if your expectations of Hammel are for him to be 3+ WAR pitcher That's not the point he was making, or at least that's not the point I was making. He can be the standard 1-2 WAR fifth starter or whatever, but if that's your role you don't get to stare down Joe every time he comes to pull your ass in the 5th inning and then complain about it to the media after the game. It was the third.