I remember reading an interesting argument on here awhile back on Theriot vs. Cedeno. The argument was formed from the question of which player would you rather have: If both players OPS .750, do you want Theriot who has to work really really hard to obtain .750, or Cedeno who has natural talent and could possibly perform better, but for some reason doesn't utilize his talents at the MLB, yet still OPS .750? I thought it was an OK question, one that heavily favored Cedeno based on potential, and also totally ignores that Cedeno had an entire season starting at the MLB level before Theriot even got a chance. I never really understood why players who have to play hard (grit) get so much flack, I mean I know that David Eckstein pretty much sucks and was on a rival team, but it shouldn't be such a shock that people in general will find attraction with players who don't have natural talent, but rather toil and grind their way into the system. What I like about Theriot is that he has an appreciation for how fortunate he is to even be in MLB. Someone like Cedeno who can probably OPS .750 with half the effort (with regular playing time), IMHO, doesn't quite have that same level of understanding or care about his situation. Doesn't (or hasn't) Cedeno pretty much utilize his time with the Cubs as a giant after hours party? IIRC he's kind of a playboy out of uniform. Correct me if I'm wrong. What does off the field activities have to do with anything? Dedication. I know, I know, dedication isn't a statistic. While I value certain statistics highly, I try to keep an opinion that bears in mind that no matter how many stats we surround ourselves with, and despite my dream of having computerized umps, the players are not robots. I honestly think some of you knowledgeable statistics guys totally forget this. They aren't robots. This of course leads to the concept of team chemistry which I know you guys hate, but I don't think it's the laughable joke many of you think it is. Anyone who's worked a real job with other individuals can tell you that work is much easier when everyone respects eachother and people get along. Players will still hate each other when the team is winning, I don't buy the argument that Wins create good chemistry. It might zip some lips for a little bit, that's all. I want and respect the guy on the team that knows he has to play his hardest to succeed. IMO, Theriot sets a much better example for his teammates than Cedeno (of course I don't know how the team views either player, but I know how I view them), and has real motivation to play well. I'm really happy with Theriot's performance this year, and I would prefer to see all the grit jokes stop. I don't see whats so cute and funny about making fun of hard work.