I hate 84 more than 89 but both were gut punches. I am 37 now, so my memories were fairly vague of 84 but I still to this day remember my dad saying "[expletive] 1969 all over again" "[expletive] Leon Durham". In 2003 I said something similar about Alex Gonzalez. 37? I'm 41 and I sometimes get '84 & '87 events mixed up. I remember being more excited for '84 probably because the Cubs hadn't been division winners prior in my lifetime. Also the 1983 White Sox just happened. 87 Dawson won MVP on a last place team. Even though they stunk still a fun summer. Was that the year Dawson got plunked in the face by Eric Show(sp?) and charged the mound? Sry I meant '89, but I think your right about Show