CubbieBum

hahaha Rangers have never had more than 2 since 2002 and had 1 twice

I think almost all of them are. Off the top of my head, the only one I'm really doubting is the 06 Marlins. Maybe the 03 Angels, too. I remember them having a sort of a disappointing year after the WS. The '03 Angels were sub .500 and had 3 starters with 10 wins. Your right I don't know why I had them on the list. And if you include relievers then the list grows by a couple. *edit it was the 03 Mariners, who were the very next team I looked at after the Angels

if you are referring to me I'm completely joking in this thread. I don't get into 'I told so' unless I actually know you. The only person i would ever say 'I told you so ' to on here is Andy and that's because he's my old roommate and we argued more than once over Theriot playing at the beginning of the season. And in some threads I try to injest some comedy ... especially when I am posting at 3 or 4 in the morning. If you were referring to the Op then ... :lol:

that would be hilarious ... if you do post a link

you're right no way any of this gets back to the players he's sending a message to the players to pick it up and refocus on hitting Yes, lack of focus is what kept those balls from landing on the ground instead of in gloves. That's the ticket! Part of hitting is hitting it to where no one can catch it. As with just about anything luck plays a aprt but we have been way to consistent at flying out recently. I don't see how what Lou did can be wrong. When he blew up (in a much larger scale obviously) it worked and sometimes players midway through a season just start going through the motion and need to be told to refocus in some way. Happens at all levels and I'm going to trust the guy who's in the clubhouse everyday of when or if that time has come.

The WR Orton is black, so, no. :D Ahhh, that would be a clue I suppose. :lol: Jake and John Standeford are brothers though.

the third such thread since the game ended ... can we stop now please I like how my Rockets board runs things with thread posting ... you create one taht already exists or one that is completely pointless you get suspended from starting threads for a week. If you are new or have done it multiple times you get demoted permenantly until you have a series of good posts.

people who are complaining about a player's recent play when that player has OPS'ed at .943 the last month just need to leave the board

you're right no way any of this gets back to the players he's sending a message to the players to pick it up and refocus on hitting

That was my thought as well. If this is his first post, when or under what name did he tell anyone? Let me pick it up and say I told you so then because I really did. what a ringing endorsement read the whole thread I got about half of the posts in it and was one of a few to want him to be the sole starter. Can I get your autograph? :) you got to pony up some dough first ... geez you think i just hand those things out Theriot does. I said he was a good player I never said he was smart.

That was my thought as well. If this is his first post, when or under what name did he tell anyone? Let me pick it up and say I told you so then because I really did. what a ringing endorsement read the whole thread I got about half of the posts in it and was one of a few to want him to be the sole starter. Can I get your autograph? :) you got to pony up some dough first ... geez you think i just hand those things out

That was my thought as well. If this is his first post, when or under what name did he tell anyone? Let me pick it up and say I told you so then because I really did. what a ringing endorsement read the whole thread I got about half of the posts in it and was one of a few to want him to be the sole starter.

Well this is an easy one. The difference is ... - the olympics and World Cup are all the countries best players pooled together and it is a battle for country supremacy. - The best soccer players in the world aren't in one league where you get to see them play against each other all the time. They are spread out amongst 3 or 4 leagues. - Baseball is essentially already international. They have almost all the players from all the countries alreay. The NBA is already getting there and I don't find it a coincidence that Olympic basketball popularity in the U.S. has gone down over the last 10 years.

That was my thought as well. If this is his first post, when or under what name did he tell anyone? Let me pick it up and say I told you so then because I really did.

Practically zero unless he suddenly fails to secure another top 10 recruiting class, although if he goes 7-5/6-6 with the schedule put before him it'd be interesting to see the reaction. ND's schedule is practically begging for 8 wins or more if the team improves as much as freshmen-to-sophomore improvement normally would suggest they will. ETA: Only morons call him the genius, this term is now used almost exclusively by Internet trolls. I'm not entirely sure I see more than 6-7 wins for sure. San Diego State, Stanford, Navy, Washington and Syracuse are relatively sure wins (Stanford and Navy might be in question, but probably not) North Carolina could be a win, but I'm not sure ND is much better than UNC right now - it's definitely not a sure thing. Otherwise, ND has one sure loss (USC) and five tough games (Michigan, @Purdue, Michigan State, Pitt and @BC). Given that, I'm not sure 8 wins is a sure thing. Less than 6-7 would be awful though. I think ND has a good chance of winning two of the five tough games - even the reprehensibly bad early-season version of the Irish managed to hang with MSU and Purdue last year, and Pitt isn't very good, plus it's at home. Obviously, I'm banking on a lot of improvement, though. Your assessment of the schedule's pretty good. They could win 8 games, my argument is just that it's far from a sure thing. As for the MSU and Purdue games, ND gets the Boilermakers on the road (though, granted, MSU is at home) plus, you can't ignore potential improvements from MSU and Purdue. I'm not sure how Purdue stacks up, but MSU is likely going to be better this year since last year was spent cleaning up John L. Smith's mess. I would think winning one of two of those is a decent bet. And I try to be unbiased with ND and analyze them honestly, I've got no deep-seeded problems with them. :D Purdue has Painter back as well as many other starters (both RB's who together did great last year). The biggest hole is WR (Orton will dominant though mark my words) but with our offense that's never been a problem. The biggest boost will actually be Tiller and our scheme. When they announced they were going to find a successor and bring him in this year Tiller had a long interview with ESPN (relax it was actually very well done article). He said he asked for it because he wanted to have a say in who replaced him but more importantly he said his fire as wained in recent years but he wants to go out big. Also Hope (the successor) was the O-line coach back in the early 2000's when we had great o-lines and the offense was at its peak. Also I've read that Tiller has vowed to go back to how they ran the offense in the late 90's-early 2000's aka passing 80 percent of the time. The bowl game showed it can still dominant. Here's the link to the article. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3323377 For the first time since Orton's days (and maybe before that) I am expecting Purdue to win at least 9 and perhaps get to 10.

Get off my koolade ... viewtopic.php?f=2&t=47626&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=theriot+appreciation

That's a big trade for teh Saints. Brees loves to throw to his TE (she Stratton and Gates). Now they have Bush coming out of the backfield, Shockey coming off the line, and Colston lined up out wide. I was gonna say he has to be on the field for that, but apparently he's played a lot more than I realize. Seems like he's always fighting some injury, and he's never played 16 games in a season, but he's played 15 in all but 2 seasons, and 14 in one of those. Yeah he's always injured but tends to be able to play through it. The last three years I think he has been listed as questionable in 2/5's of the games.

Braves did it in 2003 and 1998. White Sox did it in 2005. I'm sure its happened more often than you'd think, and more often the further back you go in history. Its not really about having great starters, but having healthy starters (and a good pen and good hitting). It was 2006.

Red Sox '04 White Sox '06 A's '05 A's '04 Angels '03 Braves '03 Marlins '06 Astros '05 Cardinals '05 Cardinals '04 Giants '02 That's a list I got from ESPN team stats for the years 2002-2007. I didn't check all the teams. If a team has sucked the whole time I didn't bother to go to their page (Probably went to about 20 of the teams). So in six seasons we have had 12 teams do it. That's not too rare and like others have said it really means nothing. It shows that you didn't have injuries and you won quite a bit. Although the last one isn't necessarily true. I don't think all the teams above were winning teams.

That's a big trade for teh Saints. Brees loves to throw to his TE (she Stratton and Gates). Now they have Bush coming out of the backfield, Shockey coming off the line, and Colston lined up out wide.

Erik Byrnes should be added. I know he's been hurt but he was bad before he got hurt and awful since (.796 OPS first month - roughly .420 OPS since). Plus he has only 4 stolen bases compared to 50 last year. Also ... Figgins Helton B.J. Upton Carlos Pena Konerko Rollins (down pace wise in every stat but SB's and doubles) Hawpe Torii Andruw Jones (down in every stat from last year have fun with that contract LA - fastest fall from grace ever? maybe hardest) Sheff Tulo Zimmerman (OBP under .300 - I'll play for free Washington just give me a bat) Hafner (Andruw's main competition)

and Ferentz hasn't been shy about punishing them, even for minor drinking violations Then it's hard to blame him for their problems. If a coach disciplines the players when they screw up and they continue to cause problems, there's really nothing a coach can do. I'm in no way defending any of the athletes who have been arrested, but the Iowa City police are notorious for going out of their way to make arrests. drinking is a big money maker for the city in terms of fines handed out for underage, possession, public intox, DUI, etc. I don't have any statistics, but I would be surprised if drinking-related offenses for the football team occurs at a higher rate than the rest of the student population. engineering majors don't make the headlines until a bridge collapses from my experience growing up in west lafayette and hearing about other campus' from friends most towns with large schools have notorious police

speaking of taking a crap ... 8-[

All I know is Fonte is gritty. :-$

I never complained about him. I realize he is a starter for about 10 teams in the majors and a solid bench guy for us.