Clem Fandango

Awesomesauce

If the FO was gonna call up prospects because they are good players and ready for MLB, Bryant would have 20 dongs in the majors right now. It's not that I don't think Russell is ready or not, it's that I don't envision the FO calling him up halfway through the season when there's no immediate need or spot for him when holding him in the minors only allows him to develop fully and allows the team to keep him longer which is what they are apparently doing with Bryant who is so very obviously ready to face MLB pitching. If Castro and/or Baez (or Russell for that matter) start getting reps at 3B, then you can speculate on his inevitable callup, but until that happens I don't see the FO deviating from their path. So for me, Russell is a 2015 September call up unless a spot opens up for him or one of our MI starts getting reps at 3B during the season. Like others have said, all this is possible, but with the way the FO has handled the prospects I just don't really see it as likely unless those caveats happen.

I think Bryant would be right and Soler left, with the way things stand now. I think the only reason Soler is in right now, is because Coghlin is so hilariously bad at defense and left field is the safest place to put him. Nah, Soler is a natural right fielder and his cannon arm is suited for the position. He's only moving to LF if we acquire someone that puts him there, i.e. Stanton (who is probably the only person we could acquire that would force him off the position)

If no trade goes down I don't think Russell shows up until September next year at the earliest, and in that situation Bryant will be the team's 3B and won't sniff the outfield until 2016, IMO. I just don't see the point in moving him off a valuable position he's not a complete butcher at and decreasing his value just because "it's inevitable", and there's irony in me saying that because earlier this season I said they should move him to the outfield because it was inevitable and was scoffed at for the same reason. He'll hit and be valuable wherever he plays, but there's no point in moving him off third until he absolutely has to be moved off third because there's either no room or he shows he's a clueless buffoon at handling the position..

no question I mean, does it even make sense for him to start at 3B to start next year? As long as the LF option is less productive the Valbuena, I'd say no. At the very least, Bryant is a left fielder the second Russell is ready. We'll just have to see who (if anyone) moves this offseason. Or maybe one of Baez, Russell, or Castro gets moved for Stanton (or something else) and Bryant stays right at 3B where his bat is much more valuable.

Alcantara on fire!

Thought that Soler one was long gone http://i.imgur.com/rP83eSG.gif

iPad or iPhone it stretches. Tapatalk is worth the minimal fee, fwiw.

Can a mod change the date for me? Not near a computer. Tapatalk wont let me do it.

They're going to wonder why we can't date our game threads correctly YEAH WELL YOURE GONNA BE TALKING THROUGH... SOMETHING... SHUT UP

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http://i.imgur.com/FelluD7.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tSBDqkf.png vs. http://i.imgur.com/4dzqyuh.jpg?1 (Look at his stupid stupid face) http://i.imgur.com/5tNO3QO.png IT'S DONG TIME http://i.imgur.com/aHPrdpM.gif

The more these crazy facts roll in the more in love with this team I am. And it's only going to get better.

Assuming he's counting this game... http://i.imgur.com/FWd2cBk.png Math is off I think. I don't see 10 wins. And they lost the previous three before i cut the graphic off

DONGS 4 EVA

if what they require is 2 top-10 overall position prospects then they'll enjoy 2 more seasons of him and a compensation pick yeah, especially when nobody else is going to give them something like that minnesota could, but they won't. That's the catch 22 of a Stanton trade for the Marlins. They SHOULD get a haul like that for someone like Stanton, but they only got one option available so they aren't in a position to really expect that they get what they want. Like I said before, they both have a certain amount of leverage, but I think the Cubs have more because the Marlins need what they have more than the Cubs need Stanton, and if the Marlins can't capitalize on Stanton at his peak value, then that will be a big failure for the organization. If we offer something like Baez, Almora, and CJ+ they should jump at the chance to get that because they probably won't get anything better.

Here, I fixed it since you guys are soooo opinionated about it http://i.imgur.com/SFEOSLo.png

The names are the way they are because A) I was making it specifically for David because he asked B) He made a makeshift text version below the original photos that was in that order. I used the names he used on the graphic. C) The names I did change were changed solely for the fact that they didn't fit on the graphic properly without shrinking the font too small. There was no rhyme or reason to it. I just copied names over, and used shorter versions of their names so it'd fit on the screen properly. That's it.

There's always Maeda, too.

If we can use Castro as the centerpiece that'd be ideal, as sad as I would be to see him go, but you have to question if Miami would want to take on his contract given how cheap they are. I realize the contract isn't even that expensive, but it's Miami so who knows wtf they are thinking. I think we're all being a little selfish in wanting to see all of this power in the same lineup though. After all, what's the best way you can compliment the 5 power bats in your system? A 6th power bat, of course! In reality, I think a deal doesn't get done if it doesn't have Baez or Russell as the centerpiece, though. I'd hate to lose either one, but Kyle's logic isn't flawed at all. Do the Cubs need A 7 win player? Of course, every team does. The Cubs can win without him, but having him makes it much easier, which is what a team should want. Like I said before I'm torn on whether or not they make a move for him. I'll be happy either way, but acquiring Stanton should never be viewed as a bad idea. I'm as in love with our farm system as anyone else, but part of the reason they exists is to be used to acquire legit MLB talent. At some point they're gonna utilize it for that, why not utilize it on the biggest name available?

http://i.imgur.com/zQ4vu27.png?1 http://i.imgur.com/i1UuEQk.png vs http://i.imgur.com/YrF6Zph.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/QPxyT8o.png Not sure what I'll be up to tomorrow afternoon, so in the event I'm not around to make the 2nd game of the double header if the Cubs win, someone take care of that, por favor. Meanwhile, Masterson has been a joke this year so we should get about 14 dongs out of Baez and Soler (AND RIZZO IF HE'D EVER COME BACK TO THIS WONDERFUL LINEUP)

The thing is they have Stanton for two more years. They have every right to demand one of Bryant, Russell, or Baez. The problem is Stanton is so good that he's the only player who is supposedly available right now who can command a return that good, and no other team in baseball has the moveable pieces to match what the Cubs can without depleting their system. Buxton and Sano for Stanton one of maybe a few conceivable packages that could match us, but it would deplete their system and then they'd need to win it all in two years and the Twins are in no position to do that with or without Stanton and they certainly won't have the money to extend him. The other tams with potent farm systems are kind of in the same boat. They are all rebuilding, but if they move guys for Stanton, they'll need to supplement that acquisition with more pieces because they likely just traded away key future talent and they now need to win before Stanton reaches FA if he won't extend. It's a double edged sword for every team that has the guys to move for him except the Cubs. There's just no other team out there who needs Stanton that can afford to acquire him. Except the Cubs (who don't really need him). So you can argue that both the Marlins and Cubs are in the drivers seat in a potential deal. The Marlins don't need to move Stanton so they can ask for a king's ransom. Conversely, the Cubs don't really need him and no one else can really afford to match even a 2nd tier package the Cubs could offer, so you could say the Cubs have leverage, too. The Marlins should know the Cubs are the key to elite young talent to get in return for Stanton, and the Cubs should know that, too. The question is who blinks? Stanton won't extend. The Marlins are in a tough spot. If they want to capitalize on his max value they'd trade him this offseason, but the Cubs are likely the only possible suitors to accommodate what the Marlins want/deserve for a player of his caliber. That said there have been some head scratchers on the past when big talent would get traded for a seemingly minimal return (relative to his value). I'd lose my [expletive] if the Cubs balked and decided not to trade for Stanton only to see him moved for like George Springer and Mark Appel or some [expletive]. Blah. I'm torn on acquiring him now. I said it in the game thread, but as pro-Stanton as I've been, if we don't trade for him I couldn't care less. This offense is going to be amazing with or without him. In case anyone missed it, here were some comments from earlier this week: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/marlins--playoff-push-not-enough-for-giancarlo-stanton-to-commit-to-future-in-miami-044107815.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Correct, but it sure is fun to talk about.

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Yeah, I'm totally fine not trading any assets for a bat, even Stanton. Just sign some pitchers with all the available money and start winning a [expletive] of games. The truth is, if it costs something like Russell, Almora, and Johnson, I'm neither for nor against getting Stanton. Same, and I'm super Pro-Stanton. This potential offense is just so [expletive] good that I really don't care if we do or don't get Stanton. Obviously I want him, but if they can't get him oh well boo hoo a million dongs with or without him.