Richmond did beat Duke a couple of years ago, but Duke has gotten a lot better. There have been dreams of a bowl game this year for the first time in a long time. I would be very surprised. When I raised the possibility of Richmond over Duke, it actually wasn't a slight at Duke. I raised it because I know how good Richmond is. I saw Duke play 3 times last year, and nearly beat the 4th best team in the Big Ten (on that real [expletive] ACC Internet station- forgot what it's called). Cutcliffe is a real solid coach; he reminds me of Grobe. Call it blind faith, but I'm still intrigued by UNI over Iowa. I'm skeptical Iowa will be more than an average Big 10 team to begin with; and if Moeaki (sp?) and Hampton don't play, I don't see Iowa scoring getting to 25 on UNI. With that said, UNI would have to play a near-perfect game, and turnovers for them would be detrimental. Iowa has played UNI 3 times since 1995, and has scored on average 48 points. you dont think Iowa will score 25?