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Duke would have beaten UCLA by 20, why would you be worried? I doubt that. Duke just isn't that good either.

thank god

Go Michigan

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I don't know about yall, but I want Lincecum more than any other.

Seconded. Even if he goes down, he goes down in flames. It's great. I'd love him on the Cubs. thirdified

The 90s Bulls teams would absolutely curbstomp this Lakers team. The Kobe-Shaq teams would as well. They're talented and they play a very aestheticly appealing brand of ball but they are soft as butter in a lot of areas. But watch this team develop. Shaq had power, but Gasol is smooth as butter. We really haven't seen what Bynum can do with Gasol and Kobe. Yeah. I doubt the Kobe-Shaq teams would destroy this Lakers team. I mean, this Lakers team, like every team, has nobody who could match up with Shaq in his prime. But this Laker team is much, much deeper than the championship teams. The Laker power forwards during the title runs were A.C. Green (82 starts) and Robert Horry with the 99-00 team, Horace Grant (starter), Horry and Mark Madsen with the 00-01 team, and Samaki Walker (starter), Horry and Madsen with the 01-02 team. Odom and Ariza would destroy Rick Fox at SF as well. Kobe is still Kobe and the point guard is equal as well. Fox, Shaw, Fisher, and Horry were very savvy basketball players. Farmar, Sasha, Vlad Rad, etc. are talented but they are pretty awful team defenders. Gasol and Odom look great against space cadetes like Gooden and Thomas but disappeared when they were matched up with physical defenders who understood team defensive concepts in the Finals. The Kobe-Shaq Lakers would obliterate this team. Wouldn't Bynum make a difference in their softness?

how are you liking Jeff Capel? i like him a lot but i imagine he's gone after this or next year im hoping that he will be the one to replace Coach K as it seems we won't go outside the "Duke family"

how are you liking Jeff Capel?

That being said, there is no way UNC loses to UK

Oh no, I would MUCH rather have Bradley

For instance, Bill James has Griffey putting up a .351 OBP and an .801 OPS. I don't want him, but give me him over Corey Patterson any day.

In both of his last two seasons, he has put up an above average OPS. Three years ago (his worst season), it was a 99 OPS+ Obviously, he will continue to decline, but it is ridiculous to say that he cannot hit anymore.

They are pretty pessimistic with Fukudome, too. :(

1) I only read dexter's most recent post so I only had seen him quoting RJ's WHIP 2) I never said ERA was a bad stat and ERA+ was a good one 3) WHIP is not a very good statistic either

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His numbers the last 3 years don't look particularly bad to me, other than the innings pitched in 2007 ... then again, he put up 184 IP last year, 205 in 2006, and 225 in 2005. I wouldn't have any problem with RJ on a one year contract. Especially if it means we're getting rid of Marquis. He was particularly bad in 2006, putting up an ERA of 5.00, ERA+ of 90. That's worse than Marquis has been for us either of the last two years. ERA is relatively meaningless if you look at it by itself, which is proven by that bolded statement. Johnson was not bad at all in 2006, he was just very unlucky. Take a closer look at his stats. That's why I posted his ERA+. His WHIP wasn't horrible, but he was hit hard when he was hit. He was bad in 2006, and he was bad the first half of 2008. He was good the second half of 2008. He was good when he wasn't on the DL in 2007. That's one good half season, two good injury-plagued halves, and three bad halves out of the last 6 half seasons. Even ERA+ is a decieving stat. You said that he was "particularly bad" which isn't even close to being true. His WHIP "wasn't horrible"? You're just, just like Pujols' batting average this season "wasn't horrible". Obiously I'm not saying that Johnson's WHIp was excellent, but a 1.23 WHIP is very good, especially in the AL. His K/BB ratio was almost 3:1, he didn't give up a lot of hits, and he was still missing a good mount of bats. The only thing that was suspect was that he gave up a lot of bombs, but he's been that way his entire career. To say that he was worse than Marquis has been in any of his 2 seasons with the Cubs is just flat out ridiculous. Johnson was a good pitcher in 2006, he was just unlucky. First, if ERA+ is a deceiving stat, then there's no such thing as a stat that isn't, because it's almost as straight forward as it gets. You can't just discount his propensity to give up bombs either. Second, I'll roll with it. If you don't count 2006, that's two decent halves that were injury plagued, one good half, and one bad half out of the last four. He's a year older now. He's still injury prone. If we didn't have two other key guys in our rotation who were injury prone, maybe I'd think about it. Adding him on top of Z and Harden...No thanks. I never said anything about his injuries or wanting to sign him, so I don't know why you're talking about that. I'm just saying that it's silly to say he was "particularly bad" in 2006 and ever sillier to say he was worse than Marquis. Obviously ERA+ puts too much emphasis on ERA alone, because there is no other reason for his ERA+ to be that low. He was NOT bad in 2006. You can tell this very simply by looking at his stats. They are all good.....except for ERA, which means that he was unlucky and guys got a lot of hits with RISP and the home runs came with guys on base. I never downplayed his home run total more than it deserevd to be. He's always given up home runs...even when he was dominating he was giving up home runs, so that's nothing new and doesn't show anything. Anyways, 28 home runs isn't that big of a deal when your WHIP is that low. His numbers are almost identical to Rich Hill's 2007 numbers. Would you say Rich Hill was bad in 2007? WHIP is a much worse statistic than ERA+ Any stat is bad when you look at it by itself. Luckily for me, I didn't use WHIP by itself, so I'm not sure I see what the point of your post is. WHIP is an important stat as long as you look at the big picture. Are you saying that total baserunners allowed isn't relevant? from what i can see, WHIP is the only stat you showed that was good.

His numbers the last 3 years don't look particularly bad to me, other than the innings pitched in 2007 ... then again, he put up 184 IP last year, 205 in 2006, and 225 in 2005. I wouldn't have any problem with RJ on a one year contract. Especially if it means we're getting rid of Marquis. He was particularly bad in 2006, putting up an ERA of 5.00, ERA+ of 90. That's worse than Marquis has been for us either of the last two years. ERA is relatively meaningless if you look at it by itself, which is proven by that bolded statement. Johnson was not bad at all in 2006, he was just very unlucky. Take a closer look at his stats. That's why I posted his ERA+. His WHIP wasn't horrible, but he was hit hard when he was hit. He was bad in 2006, and he was bad the first half of 2008. He was good the second half of 2008. He was good when he wasn't on the DL in 2007. That's one good half season, two good injury-plagued halves, and three bad halves out of the last 6 half seasons. Even ERA+ is a decieving stat. You said that he was "particularly bad" which isn't even close to being true. His WHIP "wasn't horrible"? You're just, just like Pujols' batting average this season "wasn't horrible". Obiously I'm not saying that Johnson's WHIp was excellent, but a 1.23 WHIP is very good, especially in the AL. His K/BB ratio was almost 3:1, he didn't give up a lot of hits, and he was still missing a good mount of bats. The only thing that was suspect was that he gave up a lot of bombs, but he's been that way his entire career. To say that he was worse than Marquis has been in any of his 2 seasons with the Cubs is just flat out ridiculous. Johnson was a good pitcher in 2006, he was just unlucky. First, if ERA+ is a deceiving stat, then there's no such thing as a stat that isn't, because it's almost as straight forward as it gets. You can't just discount his propensity to give up bombs either. Second, I'll roll with it. If you don't count 2006, that's two decent halves that were injury plagued, one good half, and one bad half out of the last four. He's a year older now. He's still injury prone. If we didn't have two other key guys in our rotation who were injury prone, maybe I'd think about it. Adding him on top of Z and Harden...No thanks. I never said anything about his injuries or wanting to sign him, so I don't know why you're talking about that. I'm just saying that it's silly to say he was "particularly bad" in 2006 and ever sillier to say he was worse than Marquis. Obviously ERA+ puts too much emphasis on ERA alone, because there is no other reason for his ERA+ to be that low. He was NOT bad in 2006. You can tell this very simply by looking at his stats. They are all good.....except for ERA, which means that he was unlucky and guys got a lot of hits with RISP and the home runs came with guys on base. I never downplayed his home run total more than it deserevd to be. He's always given up home runs...even when he was dominating he was giving up home runs, so that's nothing new and doesn't show anything. Anyways, 28 home runs isn't that big of a deal when your WHIP is that low. His numbers are almost identical to Rich Hill's 2007 numbers. Would you say Rich Hill was bad in 2007? WHIP is a much worse statistic than ERA+

oh my god, it is not that hard to spell samardzija

Anyone, we'd be better off with ANYONE over Griffey. Corey Patterson begs to differ i'd take patterson over griffey meh. Patterson's OPS+ was in the fourties last year But at least he plays defense. Griffey is awful on both sides of the ball. Plus Patterson is likely to bounce back from his awful season and be his nomrla, pretty crappyself. Griffey is pretty much done and will probably get worse next year Griffey wasn't AWFUL on offense last year. He had a .777 OPS good for an OPS+ of 101. I would not take him on even for the minimum, but lets not get silly here.

duke, singlehandedly giving up to overrated white high school players everywhere yeah, i wont be at all surprised when we start four white players this year

Anyone, we'd be better off with ANYONE over Griffey. Corey Patterson begs to differ i'd take patterson over griffey meh. Patterson's OPS+ was in the fourties last year

holy howry Duke only beat Rhode Island by 3 points and they were losing 77-76 with 57 seconds left

oh my god smardzija is not how you spell his name.

I would not trade Vitters for Roberts