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Another fins fan huh? I think we're up to 3 now! Stupid Romo.

Sounds like a smart pick. If I were him I'd bet everything I have (up to like $100,000) on Dallas. Then either way you win money.

I don't really like him either, but there's nothing wrong with resting your rookie PG with that big of a lead with that little amount of time left

i'm pretty sure my intramural team could have held that 17 point lead with 5 minutes left better than that group of bulls did.

Exactly. We were up 17 with just over 5 minutes left. The game should have been over. If you wanna rip the players that were in at that time, then go ahead, but there's better reasons to bitch about Del Negro.

huh? what is wrong with that???

um...let's not blow this

really? that sucks!

http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270335/12089484 wow. that right there tells it all. jake peavy is going to be a chicago cub.

Yeah I saw that. I would cry. Although, truthfully I wouldn't mind seeing the Brewers waste $10M+ per year for the next 3 years or so on a reliever. I'd just rather it not be Kerry.

By "we" you mean the one person who was saying he doesn't have value? I think the majority of us want to see him on the team next year.

people are up in arms over non tendering a guy who is 25 years old, cheap, can start or relieve, and has kept his era under 4.5 for the past 3 years gaudin isn't great, but he has good value...... especially to a team with rich harden in their rotation Gaudin doesn't have good value. He is due to earn over $2MM for a reliever that puts up terrible numbers. Many people considered Howry to have a terrible year last year, but Howry's WHIP and K/BB ratio were actually better than Gaudin's career numbers. ] i just showed you why he has good value. he's not just a reliever. he's a reliever who can start. that gives him value. plus, even though his peripherals might look bad, he has shown for 3 straight years that he can keep his era under 4.50 while bouncing between the rotation and bullpen. that always has value, especially when we have at least one guy in our rotation who is basically guaranteed to miss a chunk of start (i already said this, you're just ignoring it and pretending he's just a reliever). you can't make a blanket statement like "his numbers are terrible" when his era has been fine for 3 straight years. plus he's only 25 and should get better To be fair, ERA isn't a great way to judge a pitcher and an even worse way to judge a pitcher who pitches in relief a lot. That said, I think Gaudin does provide a good amount of value and I agree with you that he especially provides value to a team with a SP who is very likely to miss quite a few starts.

And that Vitters wasn't going to be included.

I agree with you on this. I don't think Dempster is the type of person who is gonna work any less now that he has a big new contract. He may not repeat his 08 season, but I don't think the regression will be as severe as many people are nearly assuming it to be.

So you think the combined odds of Zambrano/Lilly repeating 2008, Peavy's road self being his true self, Harden missing 7-9 starts and Dempster reverting is "very, very small"? Yes, definitely.

Names, names, names. Yes, it's got pretty names. And it's definitely a good rotation if everything goes right. But with an injury problem, a guy with declining peripherals, a home-hero who is losing his favorable park and guy who went from mediocre to awesome quite suddenly at an advanced age, I think the odds of many things going wrong are at least as likely. But you said it "lacks dominance". We would have 5 pitchers who can dominate on any given night. 3 in particular who have some of the best "stuff" in baseball And the chances of none of them having an era under 3.6 and making 25 starts is very, very small. We're getting into semantics one "dominance." All pitchers have a chance to be dominant on any given night. I think there's a good chance this rotation lacks any pitchers with dominant 2009 seasons. The fact that you think the 3.6/25 start thing is "very, very small" is exactly the sort of overrating I'm arguing Cubs fans are doing. In terms of sum value, I expect that rotation to be the best in the NL, but it's not going to go down into the annals of history or anything. How is that overrating? The chances that at least 1 out of 5 starting pitchers that are all well above average don't surpass that cutoff (a cutoff which isn't even that good for a starting pitcher) is very small. You honestly don't agree with that?

Names, names, names. Yes, it's got pretty names. And it's definitely a good rotation if everything goes right. But with an injury problem, a guy with declining peripherals, a home-hero who is losing his favorable park and guy who went from mediocre to awesome quite suddenly at an advanced age, I think the odds of many things going wrong are at least as likely. But you said it "lacks dominance". We would have 5 pitchers who can dominate on any given night. 3 in particular who have some of the best "stuff" in baseball And the chances of none of them having an era under 3.6 and making 25 starts is very, very small.

wow, this guy can argue just about anything. a rotation featuring carlos zambrano as its 3rd best starter is not dominant? peavy and harden are legit aces and z and dempster (if he pitches like he did last year) are not too far off being aces as well.

Beat the damn Bills in Canada!

Yeah, they were pretty good last year. Do you even know who they gave up to get Greene? 2 relief prospects.

I doubt they have any interest at all in Marquis. I could definitely see them having even more interest in Theriot/Cedeno now. I think Cedeno would make the most sense to be the one to go.

Damn...here comes a .900 OPS, 30 HR season.

or Snider never heard of him Duke Snider.although he's 82, i'd take him over TyCo.

what the hell was that??? we deserve to lose this one. frustrating.

not lookin good.