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  1. Little Slide Rooter
    If we want Alonzo its going be be Garza or bust. I sure hope you don't mean straight up. If the Reds want Garza it had better pull 2 significant pieces on top of that. I would think Marmol would be plenty, especially if you kicked in 5M on an already relatively cheap deal. I'm not sayint that I would want to do it, I'm saying that if we want Alonzo, we're going to have to give up Garza. The only way they'd give him up for a package built around Marmol is if we added in 2 of our top prospects. If they wanted to give us Alonzo and Leake for Marmol, that would be great but I don't see that happening.If we were to do a Garza for Alonzo and something else, the best we could hope for is likely Homer Bailey.
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    If we want Alonzo its going be be Garza or bust.
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    Are they trafing players a well? I wonder what they'd want for...ummm....never mind,
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    In that case, wouldn't both teams need to protect an extra player? Yeah, but if player B were filling more of a need than player A than it would be worth their while.
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    You left out "mine as well" from the triple crown of hurting words. You're also underestimating the talent level already in place. A reasonably healthy year from the starting rotation and last year's team at least threatens .500. It's hard to say what they'll do next season until they replace Ramirez. A team with the Cubs resources has no business throwing in the towel in November. If they could find a legit replacement or upgrade for Ramirezes production and everyone stays healthy, then yes, this team could threaten .500. However, say you replace Ramirezes prodcution with Fielder, a 1st baseman. Then you have to replace Penas production from your 3rd baseman, and non of our in house options will cut it. However, if all stayed healthy, a team of 1B Fielder 2B Barney SS Castro 3B DeWitt/Baker LF Soriano CF Jackson RF Byrd C Soto SP Garza SP Zambrano SP Demp SP Wells SP Cashner/Samardzjia I think that team could threaten .500, yes. What I like about it is that while your technically a contender, though a darkhorse you havn't spent too much and have plenty left over for next year or midseason if the right guy becomes available. However, say we go with the DeWitt/Baker 3B and either use LaHair or Pena at 1B, no matter how healthy the rotation that team will be threatening .400.
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    The appeal with Hochevar is that he's one of those former golden boys who didn't live up to the hype but a change of scenery and/or coaching could pay off handsomely. Their main need is a front of the rotation pitcher(Garza), not that we dont need one. The difference is, we have the money to go out and get one next year and I doubt they can afford one of the big names if the hit FA. We need a big bat, which hopefully Gordon can be and we get a mid rotation starter in Hochever who could potentially be even better. We'd also get a top pitching prospect in Lamb and they'd fill the outfield hole left by Gordon with Byrd unless they prefer to roll the dice and take Colvin instead. We could also kick them Flaherty, who we likely lose through Rule 5 anyway as a useful supersub with a bit of power. If Flaherty is going to be lost through Rule 5, why would the Royals want him? They may have a space for him that we don't. Flaherty was probably left unprotected because we have enough big league ready utility types on our hands. That's great, but I'm pretty sure they're prohibited from adding anyone else. Is that for anyone or just from your own system?
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    The appeal with Hochevar is that he's one of those former golden boys who didn't live up to the hype but a change of scenery and/or coaching could pay off handsomely. Their main need is a front of the rotation pitcher(Garza), not that we dont need one. The difference is, we have the money to go out and get one next year and I doubt they can afford one of the big names if the hit FA. We need a big bat, which hopefully Gordon can be and we get a mid rotation starter in Hochever who could potentially be even better. We'd also get a top pitching prospect in Lamb and they'd fill the outfield hole left by Gordon with Byrd unless they prefer to roll the dice and take Colvin instead. We could also kick them Flaherty, who we likely lose through Rule 5 anyway as a useful supersub with a bit of power. If Flaherty is going to be lost through Rule 5, why would the Royals want him? They may have a space for him that we don't. Flaherty was probably left unprotected because we have enough big league ready utility types on our hands.
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    One thing that surprises me a bit: looking at guys like Flaherty, Jackson, and Gonzalez who still have plenty of potential but are left exposed to to roster crunches is that I'm sure every team has their guys like that who they'd like to keep but do not want to roster so why not make some trades before the Rule 5 draft rather than risk losing them? Say a team is in need of a utility guy with a decent bat, maybe they have a decent starter whose unprotected and swap them.
  9. Little Slide Rooter
    The appeal with Hochevar is that he's one of those former golden boys who didn't live up to the hype but a change of scenery and/or coaching could pay off handsomely. Their main need is a front of the rotation pitcher(Garza), not that we dont need one. The difference is, we have the money to go out and get one next year and I doubt they can afford one of the big names if the hit FA. We need a big bat, which hopefully Gordon can be and we get a mid rotation starter in Hochever who could potentially be even better. We'd also get a top pitching prospect in Lamb and they'd fill the outfield hole left by Gordon with Byrd unless they prefer to roll the dice and take Colvin instead. We could also kick them Flaherty, who we likely lose through Rule 5 anyway as a useful supersub with a bit of power.
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    Yeah, but in the next 3-4 years hopefully the Cubs will be able to pilledge the Royals and The Royals will be the Royals again.
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    Kansas City seems to be taking themselves for real, and why shouldn't they? There's really no long term threat in that division. Detroit looks like they can be very good for another 2 years, but that's about it. The Royals seem to have more top prospects and young players than they know what to do with, their main weakness being big league ready starting pitching, thus a 2 year deal for 47 year old junkballer Bruce Chen. I doubt we're getting any of their top 3, Myers, Odirizzi, or Montgomery, or Hosmer but perhaps something like Moutsakas, Lamb, and a few more prospects. Maybe work Luke Hoochever in the deal and see if a change of scenery does him good. Even something centered around Alex Gordon could be interesting. Either A. Royals Garza Flaherty Cubs Moutsakas Lamb Hoochevar or B. Royals Garza Byrd or Colvin: Colvin could hold them over a few years until Myers is ready, or they could extend Byrd to do the same. Flaherty Cubs Gordon Hoochevar Lamb In either scenerio, a few fringe prospects from one or both teams can go back and forth as well. Thing about the Royals is they have to get that window open quick before the top guys that end up panning out end up elsewhere.
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    None of those packages would make me excited about giving up on next season. I actually very much like the Toronto package. Don't know how much they'd like it though. Maybe if we threw in Castillo to sweeten it up a bit. I know last year sucked for Drabek but he's still only 23.
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    I can somewhat understand the Jays asking for ridiculous compensation as a division rival is asking for their manager.
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    I just don't see him being our 3rd overall prospect. I didnt even agree with the BA list having him in the top 10. I guess it could be partly because I keep forgetting that he's still pretty young and have been viewing him as being 26 or 27 for the past 3 years. I do agree that we should either consider trading him or roll the dice on him and trade Soto. For what it's worth, on MLBTR chat yesterday someone asked what Sotos trade value wold be and the response was a solid 3 starter. I'd do it. With that site I always keep in mind that when it comes tomactual rumors, he has some of the best intel, but for general speculation, he's no better than anyone else. Sometimes,worse. He still seems to be on The Cubs have money but likely wont do any big spending this offseason boat so hopefully hes wrong there.
  15. Little Slide Rooter
    Then it's not so much cheating as it is doing what pretty much any AAAA player does, although Flaherty still has a few more years before getting that lable.
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    Didn't he hit like .330 for the Pirates? Could be but he's not going to fool any team into thinking he's not 35-36 years old. Maybe some team could show interest on a 1 year but depending on the Pirates arb number he might not get a better offer so why risk it? I can't imagine a contender going after him. He has the same market as Pena and Kotchman. His best bet is if someone like the Mariners or Indians don't fully trust Smoak or LaPorta yet and want a 1 year band aid as opposed to 2-3 of Pena or Kotchman.
  17. Little Slide Rooter
    Looks like starting pitching is a gaping hole in our system, but that could change depending on the progress of some of the 2011 picks as well as guys like Wells, Rhee, Struck, Antigua, Beeler, Peralta, and the potential return of Whitenack.
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    What does cheat for power mean?
  19. Little Slide Rooter
    In other arbitration news, The Pirates offered it to Derrek Lee. I hope he accepts because I don't know what else is out there for him. He doesnt have the bat he used to and younger options like Pena and Kotchman might not be too much more expensive.
  20. Little Slide Rooter
    Not necessarily. Pujols and Fielder go beyond the 1B market. Teams with a 1B could sign them to DH or move their existing IB to DH or OF if posssible or trade an existing 1B. They're that good. Pena only appeals to teams with an immediate need for a 1B and there are multiple so-so options and only so many teams with an immediate need at that spot. In fact, aside from the Cubs, the teams who have been linked the most to Fielder, The Mariners, Marlins, and Angels all have their own existing 1B. Why would Pena not be an option for a team looking for a DH? I suppose he could be, but if a 1-2 year DH is what you seek you could probably get someone like Vlad or Matsui for a lot cheaper. Im notsaying that nobody is going to want Pena, just that I dont think that hisnor any other free agents value hinges on what happens with Pujols and Fielder. Theyre more once in a life time if you have the money fet them whether you have an immediate need or not guys. Teams in the chase for those 2 that move one will likely spend the money elsewhere like on pitching or even save it dor next year.
  21. Little Slide Rooter
    Personally, I think that The Brewers would be a good spot. If they sign him, acquire an upgrade at SS or 3B, and a few solid back end relievers theyd have a pretty good chance to hold down the division for another year before The Cubs come for it.
  22. Little Slide Rooter
    Not necessarily. Pujols and Fielder go beyond the 1B market. Teams with a 1B could sign them to DH or move their existing IB to DH or OF if posssible or trade an existing 1B. They're that good. Pena only appeals to teams with an immediate need for a 1B and there are multiple so-so options and only so many teams with an immediate need at that spot. In fact, aside from the Cubs, the teams who have been linked the most to Fielder, The Mariners, Marlins, and Angels all have their own existing 1B.
  23. Little Slide Rooter
    If there arent any better options, we could live with Pena. However, there is one great option and one amazing option. If Theo plans on pursuing Fielder or Pujols for 6-8 years, I highly, highly, highly doubt that it hinges on whether or not Pena accepts arbitration.
  24. Little Slide Rooter
    And then?
  25. Little Slide Rooter
    If we dont get any compensation for Type Bs anymore what would be the point?
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