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  1. I've been a Cub fan for 54 years and I'm ready to see the Cubs win a WS. Another reason to "mortgage the future" is that our top prospects (Pie and Hill) are starting to look like flops. Maybe it's time to trade them while they still have some trade value.
  2. I think Soto is probably one of the most "untouchable" players in the league right now. Finding a young stud catcher only happens about once every 20 years, so I can't think of a realistic deal in which I would include Soto.
  3. The Indians are going to be more interested in Murton than Pie? This really gets to the heart of the matter though. The Indians really need more hitting than pitching, and the Cubs don't have any elite talent to trade to them in the minors. The Indians are not looking to restock a farm system like the Orioles were doing in the offseason. The Indians want guys who can be impact players, not a bunch of guys who might turn out to be serviceable players. The only way this really makes sense is if this becomes a three team trade where the Cubs move their "surplus" of young solid arms to another team for some impact position prospects to the Indians for Sabathia. How about a 3-way with the Pirates, sending them a bunch of prospects with them sending Bay or Nady to the Indians and Sabathia coming to the Cubs.
  4. Nobody ever downgraded Babe Ruth for the in Yankee Stadium with it's short RF fence.
  5. The latest Sporting News has an article about Lance Berkman and some of the numbers comparing him to all-time greats were amazing: Career OPS: 1. Babe Ruth 1.164 5. Albert Pujols 1.044 9. Todd Helton 1.007 10. Manny Ramirez 1.001 11. Lance Berkman .982 Career OPS, switch hitter: 1. Berkman .982 2. Mickey Mantle .977 3. Chipper Jones .957 Career ABs/RBI: 1. Babe Ruth 3.80 7. Manny Ramirez 4.41 25 Lance Berkman 4.96 Career OBP, active players: 1. Todd Helton .430 2. Albert Pujols .423 3. Frank Thomas .420 4. Lance Berkman .415 When you talk about superstars and future HOFers, I would venture that hardly anyone thinks of Berkman, but his numbers should put him in those discussions.
  6. I'm to the point where I can't see us landing a legit #2 or better without including someone like Lee or Aramis (obviously not going to happen). There's a greater chance of someone from within stepping up and performing like a #2 by the end of the year than there is of us acquiring one. I hope Hendry serves me a big ol' dish of crow on this one. Most teams trading for a legit #2 starter have given up on 2008 and are looking to the future, so they would want young players or prospects.
  7. yes, please. Its interesting. Can Hoff play LF? Can Bonds play LF? Can Dunn play LF? The answer is that any of the three would be standing in LF waiting to bat.
  8. Agreed. Even if Cook doesn't continue his current production, he's always been a very reliable starter even before the humidor era began. In both 2006 and 2007 his ERA+ was 116. Before that, he didn't have any full seasons, and I'm not sure if that's because of injuries or something else. Anyone know his history? His BABIP is .283 too. So it looks like he's not getting abnormally lucky either. I'd love to deal for Fuentes and Cook together. What would it cost? Neither figures to play prominently in the Rockies future, so I can't imagine it would be too much. Jose Ceda and Ronny Cedeno? I don't think Ceda and Cedeno would get you a callback if you're talking about Cook and Fuentes. I would think that they would get better offers than that for either pitcher.
  9. Murton has two strikes against him: he's not left-handed and he doesn't hit for power.
  10. From Ken Rosenthal: The Cubs not only will pursue the best available starting pitcher — C.C. Sabathia? — but they also have shown interest in Rockies closer Brian Fuentes, a left-hander who would help reduce the late-inning load on righties Carlos Marmol and Kerry Wood. Fuentes, a free agent at the end of the season, could fill a variety of roles — matchup specialist, setup man, closer — making him appealing to virtually every contender . . .
  11. Also, Griffey is owed a ton of money from previous years in which he deferred part of his contract.
  12. Here's a deal that makes sense: Brian Roberts for Rickie Weeks. The Brewers, who recently had two scouts watching the Orioles, are interested in Roberts, but it remains to be seen whether they are ready to give up on Weeks. Roberts, a more accomplished leadoff hitter and better defender than Weeks, is a more natural fit for a contender. The Orioles, meanwhile, could be patient with Weeks defensively, much as the Twins are being patient with the erratic Carlos Gomez. Weeks would be another young, athletic building block to go with Adam Jones and Nick Markakis. A straight-up deal might be out of the question, considering that Roberts is a free agent after next season while Weeks is under club control through 2011. But the Orioles could add a young pitcher or even one of their veteran relievers while perhaps getting another piece back in return. One thing is certain: The Orioles no longer can get the same deal for Roberts that the Cubs offered during the off-season. One reported package included right-hander Sean Gallagher, shortstop Ronny Cedeno, Class AA left-hander Donald Veal and Class A righty Jose Ceda; another proposal substituted outfielder Matt Murton for Veal, according to a source. BRob plus a young pitcher for a career .240 hitter is quite a comedown from the Cubs' offer.
  13. Gallagher, meanwhile, is showing progress in the Cubs' rotation and drawing raves from new teammate Jim Edmonds. "He's the first guy I've seen in a while with Carpenter stuff," Edmonds says, referring to his former Cardinals teammate, Chris Carpenter.
  14. Burnett, Harden, and Lowe interest me, but Wolf, Meche, etc. aren't worth the cost. We need a pitcher that could dominate a game, not just back-of-the-rotation filler. We have enough #4 and #5 candidates with Marquis, Lieber, Gallagher, Marshall, Hill, and Hart.
  15. Haha, especially at the Hoffpauir part. I'm sure the Royals are just dying to unload a premium trading piece for a 28 year old career minor leaguer with a sub .800 career minor league OPS. Those other guys don't have much value either, unless they are throw in guys around a centerpiece. I was thinking of Marshall/Gallagher plus 2 of Hoffpauer, Cedeno, Murton, and Patterson. If that's not enough, add a 3rd player from the group. Just forget it. These days guys with Greinke's profile are being dealt for the likes of Delmon Young and Josh Hamilton. That's what is meant by "very good, cheap, young MLB-ready hitter," not the collection of benchwarmers you've assembled. The only guy we've got that fits the description is Geo Soto. I wouldn't make that trade, but it's certainly the right ballpark. One article suggested that the Royals have a ton of holes both at the ML level and at AAA. While none of those players are a "Josh Hamilton", they certainly would help both at the ML level and AAA. Basically, I'm suggesting overwhelming them with quantity over quality. It's certainly worth a try since all they can do is say no.
  16. Haha, especially at the Hoffpauir part. I'm sure the Royals are just dying to unload a premium trading piece for a 28 year old career minor leaguer with a sub .800 career minor league OPS. Those other guys don't have much value either, unless they are throw in guys around a centerpiece. I was thinking of Marshall/Gallagher plus 2 of Hoffpauer, Cedeno, Murton, and Patterson. If that's not enough, add a 3rd player from the group.
  17. MLBtraderumors.com in an article about the starting pitcher market mentions Greinke's name again: Zack Greinke, Royals. To trade him, the Royals would probably need a very good, cheap, young MLB-ready hitter. "very good, cheap, young MLB-ready hitter" could describe Hoffpaur, Cedeno, Murton, Patterson, or a combination of them. I mentioned before Greinke would be a great pickup as a pitcher with experience and youth (24). Some posters weren't enamored with the original discussion of DeJesus and Greinke, but getting Greinke without DeJesus should satisfy the naysayers.
  18. Presumably we'd get at the very least a strong indication of signability before making the deal. I don't think that will happen with the Yankees, Mets, Red Sox, Dodgers, Angels, and Rangers willing to outbid each other. We're one of the big spending teams too. But we're not as desperate as some of those underachieving teams with deep pockets.
  19. If you can find a team with deep pockets and a great offense, you might be able to trade him for a low-level prospect. Don't forget that the team that gets him will get a draft pick if he leaves, so some team could take a chance on him if the Cubs eat part of his contract.
  20. Presumably we'd get at the very least a strong indication of signability before making the deal. I don't think that will happen with the Yankees, Mets, Red Sox, Dodgers, Angels, and Rangers willing to outbid each other.
  21. I read somewhere that the draft is pretty thin and probably will result in more trades instead of taking draft picks.
  22. I'm certainly not defending him, but doesn't that make him the best 5th starter in baseball?
  23. If he nets us Sabathia, I will not miss him Any Sabathia deal should hinge on him signing to an extention, otherwise he's not worth Pie. I disagree enormously, considering Sabathia would make us the favorites to win the World Series. But I don't want to clear out the farm (considering we'd have to send Hill, probably) for a rental. I'd want some long-term assurances. I agree with you. I've been a fan for 54 years and I would love to see the Cubs win it all, but suggestions of giving up Pie and Hill for possibly a 2-month rental with no guarantee of winning the WS seems outrageous.
  24. i guess you missed it... greinke got good again. Perhaps, but good over 2 months isn't worth whatever prospects we have left If we're lucky, some of those prospects might turn into a 24-year-old, 120+ ERA starting pitcher Agreed. A this point, the Cubs farmhands, are closer to being suspects then actul prospects, with the excpetion of a few players. Understood, that is why the few that have some value all shouldn't go in the same trade for a suspect pitcher and a CF that is really not needed I totally disagree with your description of Greinke as a "suspect pitcher" and DeJesus as a "CF that is not really needed". Greinke is an excellent pitcher who has proven himself for a last place team and is only 24 years old. DeJesus is a solid, proven major league CF who is only 28 years old. You're right that DeJesus (and Greinke) are not needed right now because everything is clicking for the Cubs. Later in the season when things like Edmonds starts feeling his age and Dempster and Gallagher start feeling the effects of starting during 162 game schedule, you might see the need for this deal. Also, I pointed out, their ages would allow the Cubs to go into next year with two less holes to fill.
  25. For all of their problems so far, the AL Central is so bad this year that they could get back into it with a minor winning streak. The White Sox have won, but their hitters are showing signs of old age and Guillen's rants will add to their downfall. The Twins always seem to be competitve, but they're a flawed team. Who knows what happened to the Tigers.
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