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One thing that the broadcasters were commenting on during Wednesday night's game was how it appeared the Reds hitters were having a hard time picking up the ball from Lilly's hand. I'll be interested to see what happens the second time around, both for the Reds and the rest of the league (assuming Lilly has continued success the first time through).

as an unemployment grad with my student id, this seems like an excellent way to spend my time we gotta find that code

wasn't Pole one of Maddux's original pitching coaches?

good game by derosa, big hit

gotta start turning these singles into doubles and homers

co-sign, I just found a BP-quality post from back in the day about Soriano at the top of the lineup and although its a small sample size, tonights Lilly/Arroyo game is making him look awfully prescient Maybe you could ask kroth1342 whatever happened to him, since you share the same IP. blasted technology (although I was waiting for someone to run an IP check) I'm just enjoying this performance by Lilly

With no search function how did you find this thread? Bookmark? about a million clicks through the forum

Okay, I'd say that my biggest problem with this message board is people overreaction to the most minor events and daily changes in the Cubs universe. For example, I remember after Mark Prior had his good ST outing (don't remember which one it was) that someone had his 2008 or 2009 salary at $10+ million. Then Prior has a bad outing, and are (unsurprisingly) posts about trading, releasing, or figuring out what to do with Prior. Oh, but god forbid someone makes a "Prior towel drill" or "Prior injury" joke, because the lords of the board who decide what is and isn't appropriate will smote thee down. Obviously no one is pleased with Soriano's play up to this point (6th inning against Arroyo), but what I was impressed with was kroth1342's ability to taking something from BP (a website the majority of the board reads/co-signs) and apply it to the Cubs' acquisition of Soriano and our need for increased OBP at the top of the lineup. I found it an intelligent, innovative post, markedly different from the usual short, sound bite-esque posts that can dominate this board at time. It was an inciteful attempt to stimulate discussion on the board. In the future, I'd certainly like to read more posts like this, and that's why I was uppin it.

co-sign, I just found a BP-quality post from back in the day about Soriano at the top of the lineup and although its a small sample size, tonights Lilly/Arroyo game is making him look awfully prescient

uppin this powerful thread

Tell that to all the boxers that are walking the streets. Tell that to Kareem Abdul Jabbar who was broke when his career ended. A guy's arm could fall off tomorrow and his career will be over. You get what you can get when you can get it. Period. I suppose these guys could live off the interest of their 4-5 million, but wouldn't they be giving up a significant portion of the lifestyle they had been living while they were still playing the game? Why give that up if you could live off the interest of even more than 4-5 million? To ask the question another way....... You're currently the manager of the McDonald's down the street. You make $13.00 an hour and get good benefits. You've been with McDonald's for 8 years now, and you're pretty pleased with how things have worked out for you. Are you so loyal to them that you would turn down $17.00 an hour to be the manager at Burger King with the same benefits? Is McDonald's treating you so well that you'd be willing to pass over $8,320 of increased annual income to keep grilling burgers? Do you like that "hometown discount"? To me, I think that my current employer is raking me over the coals and tomorrow I'll be broiling burgers instead of grilling them. Baseball isn't a job you can hold onto until you are age 65. Most players are out of the game before they reach 35. Some of these guys never got an education to speak of, and they will need to learn how to manage their money fast, or it will be gone as quickly as it came. And there is NO job that will pay them anywhere close to what they are getting now, so you get what you can get while you can. If you were in Zambrano's shoes, you'd be asking for as much as you could squeeze out of the Cubs. And you aren't just negotiating by yourself. You have your agent, your family members and the players union all making sure you take what you have coming. You might need this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marginal_utility#The_.E2.80.9Claw.E2.80.9D_of_diminishing_marginal_utility The situations are a little different.

Kevin Goldstein, Christina Kahrl, and Rany Jazayerli of Baseball Prospectus are scheduled to be at DePaul's Loop Campus at 5pm tonight for a talk. Address is 1 East Jackson Blvd. Anyone planning on attending?

I don't understand why some people are so adamant about getting a deal done without knowing the exact cost. Sure we can come up with estimates about what Carlos could/will receive if an extension is agreed to, but I'd rather wait for the details before I go like this: \:D/ or :(

Alrighty then... Some of us have the luxury of working from home with lots of extra time and some of us don't... I'm surprised you're here now! Apparently, every moment of your life is action packed. :roll: Well I hope your employer is getting full value for their compensation, because I can't possibly see how much work you can get done with over 30 posts a day. I don't want this to turn into a full fledged e-beef, but I don't mind if I can't keep it on wax and it spills into the streets.

I think the sole reason is that the Cubs understand how easily they can create a home atmosphere in a division rivals park, no more, no less. And by the way, over 2k posts in less than two months time, http://www.merel.us/Joker/Cartoons/Toons1/images/Get%20a%20Life_gif.jpg

Thanks RichHill

Shouldn't you come up with answers on your own, or at least look for published sources? Can't quote an NSBB poster.

gameday link anyone? thanks in advance

I read that article too - it seems to me that Arod will posture his situation to ensure he can opt-out regardless of what happens on the field. The only way I think he doesn't opt-out is if the Yankees win the WS. If they do well and he does well (but not win WS), he can opt-out and ask for a new contract commensurate with FA contracts of the recent past. If they do well/poorly and he does not perform at the top of his ability, I can see him using the opt-out clause to escape.

It's been some time since this has been updated, here's some more info: Some of the biggest news on the pitching side is that it seems Mark Prior is injury-free but throwing without confidence, and as a result he will soon go to minor league camp. Angel Guzman is throwing the ball well (mid to upper 90s velocity) and seems like the best choice for the fifth starter as of now. Rocky Cherry, Hill, Zambrano, and Dempster are striking out more than 1 batter/inning. On the offensive side, Felix Pie (.333/.379/.333) is making a lot of people wonder if he'll be on the major league roster to start the season (doesn't seem like it), and Hendry and Piniella have to figure out what to do with our crowded outfield situation. That's about it for now, only a couple weeks left. Stay safe over there!!!

Sometimes he doesn't sound like he's prepared? The point of listening to Ron Santo is to hear someone so passionate, someone who lives and dies with every pitch. I don't listen for a cross between Steve Stone and Baseball Prospectus. Yes but is that what he's there for? He's like a fan... Sometimes all you get are grunts and if Pat asks him a question sometimes he doesn't know of is ill-informed. I listen to a lot of different calls and there's no doubt he is an acquired taste. On the other hand, Pat is a great broadcaster. I think the point of Ron Santo the broadcaster is to keep him in baseball and in people's minds to keep his HOF campaign going. The reason it works is because: 1, Pat gets along with him and can cover his faults; 2, the majority of fans (opinion) revere Santo as the voice of the fan.

Sometimes he doesn't sound like he's prepared? The point of listening to Ron Santo is to hear someone so passionate, someone who lives and dies with every pitch. I don't listen for a cross between Steve Stone and Baseball Prospectus.

are these scores something you make yourself or is there a link?