I totally agree. I hate the Cards, but at least their fans show up at the ballpark every day (not just for the playoffs and the days Rocket pitches), and aren't fickle, fair weather chumps who make themselves scarce when their team isn't doing so well. Right or wrong, I guess much of my perception of other teams depends on their fans. And that being the case, I can at least respect most Cards fans. I can't say the same of most Astros fans. Agree 100% with both of you. Having lived in Houston for some time a couple years back, I was able to witness firsthand the Astros' fan base. It is generally a very laissez faire group that only shows up when it counts. I get the impression they are very similar to the Dodgers fans in L.A. That being said I'd like to see the Cards win the NL then be bounced by any team out of the AL not named the Yankees. Come on Angels!!! Haven't the dodgers led the NL in attendance for like 20 years in a row? Sure, they arrive late and leave early, but most of them are watching the game at least. But hey, Astros fans cheer when the scoreboard tells them to! I have to cheer against the Astros because no world series should ever be played in a little league park where you need a yellow line to decide a homerun and you can score five runs on 650 feet of home runs.