and with rusch, williams, maddux and hill in the rotation, you need someone that can hit the freaking ball. damn it, hill...4-2. Defense and pitching wins. hey, if the cliche sounds good, it must be true. It's not a Cliche and you know it's true. Look at any world series winner the past 3-4 years and you will see Solid D and Great pitching. lets see how far back we have to go - Boston 2004 - shaky defense, decent pitching, great offense.