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Minor League Discussion & Boxes 8-29-2007
CubColtPacer replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
Samardzija is apparently not done yet. 7 IP, 3 R, 2 ER, 5 H, 2 K/0 BB, HBP, HR, 11 GO-8 FO -
Pat and Ron made a reference to the movement on his fastball last night and how that was unusual for Hill.
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Desperation on the Brewers side really helps optimism for us. This is a pretty big gamble in starting Sheets, hopefully it doesn't pan out for the Brewers. It just sucks that whenever we should knock a guy around we end up getting shut out or something. I have a feeling Sheets will struggle with control, and I'm afraid our hitters just wont let themselves get ahead in counts. But again, I still think we drop a big crooked number on Sheets in the first couple innings. It sure would help if the Cubs approach Sheets as opponents seem to approach Zambrano - take, take, take and let him pitch himself into trouble. I'm not sure that's the right strategy. Yes, the Cubs should try to be patient against Sheets tonight. Sheets walks so few guys though that if you are committed to taking a couple pitches, you've got a pretty good shot of being down 0-2. I'd want my 1st couple hitters to be extra patient against Sheets and see how his control is coming back from his injury. If his control is spotty, keep taking pitches and drive his pitch count up. If the Cubs just are committed to taking pitches though, they most likely will be down in a lot of counts.
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I want me some JJ love..................
CubColtPacer replied to NomarSammy's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Yeah, if we didn't have Pie, I'd be perfectly fine having Jacque as our CF for the last year of his deal. Being that Pie is here and has little left to prove in AAA, I hope Jacque gets traded in the offseason. I wouldn't be shocked though to see the Cubs move Jacque back to RF, have him platoon with Murton, and have Pie play full-time in CF. That wouldn't be awful, but it would be far from the best option. -
Lee and Ramirez both well above career averages in OPS
CubColtPacer replied to Bull's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Wow-I just looked at the 2nd half home run numbers. Lee leads the way with 9 home runs. The next one? 3 (Aramis, Soriano, Jones, Murton). That's awful. Lee's second half has started to convince me that he can be a 25-30 home run guy again next year. I doubt he'll ever get anywhere near 2005 levels in power-maybe in OBP, but not in his HR and SLG. -
I want me some JJ love..................
CubColtPacer replied to NomarSammy's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
His OPS in the second half is .851. Please find me CF'ers we could have had with a better second half OPS. His OPS over his last 30 games is .924. It's clear that his abhorrent start is affecting that OPS greatly, so comments like yours are clearly disingenuous because they look at his numbers in a vacuum. It's clear he's been a different Jock since the break. Posting those numbers wouldn't help you though.l So only posting his good numbers is more genuine? Jones has been awful this year. But he's been great for much of the 2nd half. Good for him. It's always fun to see a hot Jacque, because hot Jacque really hits the ball hard and can rack up the XBH. It's just unfortunate that he's so rarely hot. It's just that we're in the middle of the season right now. Jacque got criticized plenty for his play in April-June. There was even a 50 page thread where everybody was really happy he got traded, and rightly so. At the same point, he deserves to be praised for his recent play. Let's analyze the full season after the year-right now Jones deserves praise because he has kept this team in first place the past month. Let's put it another way-did Marquis not deserve criticism in June and July because his overall numbers still looked quite good? Of course he did, because he was struggling. By the same token, Jacque deserves praise for his recent play even though the full season numbers still are slightly below average for a CF. btw-this post isn't a complete direct reply to you, it's more of a general reply to a few posts in the thread. -
Somebody needs to tell Fonzie to lay off the first pitch or two tonight...make Sheets work early.... Maybe he could talk to the Riot about that... Or maybe not: Soriano: 3.65 P/PA Theriot: 3.59 P/PA Do you have the above statistics for his stretch in the one spot? In the leadoff spot: Soriano; 3.62 P/PA Theriot: 3.47 P/PA
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It's not exactly a rare chance for FIU. Here are their major conference teams they play this year: At Penn State Maryland At Miami At Kansas At Arkansas They also played at Miami, at Alabama, and at Maryland last year. It's actually quite sad. FIU is trying to build their football program, but their AD appears more willing to want the money from these big schools instead of trying to find competitive games for his team. Every small school is going to have a game or two against a big school that they don't have a chance in, but FIU takes it way too far.
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Minor League Discussion & Boxes 8-28-2007
CubColtPacer replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
They can't let him stay in AAA next season as he's used up all his options. That's right, I forgot about that. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't imagine Lou will be too happy about keeping him as the backup IF on his squad next year. I cannot see them exposing Cedeno to be picked up, so if he is still a Cub at ST, I think he probably makes the team. He's a prime candidate to be traded in the offseason though. -
Minor League Discussion & Boxes 8-28-2007
CubColtPacer replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
Here comes Cedeno again. He still could be a useful MLB starter, but I don't see it happening in Chicago. He's had his chances, and he probably has burned his chances here to develop into a starting SS. Besides in September (when he'll just ride the bench anyway as a callup) should the Cubs just let him stay in AAA next year, get some great numbers out of him, and then try to trade him mid-season? -
Oh, I'd definitely agree. I probably still would have played it closer to the way you suggest than the way Yost played it. I actually put no stock in the 4 AB's against Linebrink-that's so few at-bats that one hard hit out that falls for a double changes the statistics all the way. The 10 at-bats is a little more statistically significant only because of the extra base hits. If Jacque had been 4/10 with 4 singles, then it could just be passed off as luck. 2 HR's and a double could still be mostly lucky pitches, but it's a lot less likely. Also, there are about 3 Cubs who the Brewers would really love to save that situational left-hander for (4 if you count Pie). With Jones having great numbers against Shouse, even in a limited number of at-bats, it just wasn't the right time to use him, especially after Linebrink entered the game which meant the Brewers probably would have had to use 3 relievers to get out of the 7th if they brought in Shouse. Like I said, I wouldn't have played it the way Yost did, but I don't think it's completely cut and dry that he's wrong either.
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Ok, two things: Suppan did not continue easily mowing down the Cubs lineup as the game wore along. In the 5th, he gave up a double and a single to the pitcher. In the 6th, he had a hard hit ball straight to the center fielder, a single off of the corner wall in right, and a very hard hit ball that happened to go right to Braun for a 5-4-3 DP. Then in the 7th he starts with the Floyd HBP. The Cubs had started to hit just about every ball hard off of Suppan those last 7 batters that he had faced. It was only a matter of time before the Cubs broke through with the balls they were hitting (as opposed to the first 4 2/3, where they mostly looked clueless). As for Shouse not coming in, I was shocked that Yost didn't go to him. I do have the reason why he wouldn't, numbers which shock me as well: Jacque Jones vs. Shouse: 4/10, 1 2B, 2 HR, .400/.400/1.100 Jones was 0/4 with a walk against Linebrink before tonight. The fact that Jones has 3 extra base hits against him and 2 home runs suggests that Jones has an easier time against Shouse than just about any other left-hander (which was not evidenced by his at-bat later in the game). I still don't necessarily agree with the call, but I can at least understand that it was a tough decision on Yost's part instead of the slam dunk that I thought it was during the game.
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8/28 Cubs (Hill) vs. Brewers (Suppan) 7:05 CT CSN
CubColtPacer replied to otis89's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
Murton should still be left as well. -
8/28 Cubs (Hill) vs. Brewers (Suppan) 7:05 CT CSN
CubColtPacer replied to otis89's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
I'd go ahead and pinch-hit Monroe here against Shouse. It's the bottom of the 8th now with a 2 run lead-no need to worry about burning Fontenot, just try to tack on as much as possible. -
8/28 Cubs (Hill) vs. Brewers (Suppan) 7:05 CT CSN
CubColtPacer replied to otis89's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
Single to LF scored Pie from 2nd base. -
Countdown To The Day Soriano Comes Off The DL
CubColtPacer replied to Sweet Swinging Billy's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Which is exactly why he shouldn't be hitting leadoff when he returns. He should be put in the 5-hole and left there. There's absolutely no reason for him to be hitting leadoff, especially if he's not going to be stealing any bases for us down the stretch. I remember how slowly Aram "ran" in 2005 when the coaches told him to be cautious. He pretty much jogged around the bases. I don't know if Soriano will be that slow but I'm sure he will be slow. There's no way Lou will let him run at anything near full speed. I'm not sure Lou will have much of a choice in the matter. Soriano doesn't seem like a player who will take it safe for pretty long. He's going to be testing the limits of what his body can take within a few days. He might not be attempting to steal bags, but I bet he'll still be turning on the jets around the bases. -
Monroe started against a righty today!!!
CubColtPacer replied to RegulusBlue's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
why? Not sure if this is a serious question or not. Generally, it has to do with who has the last opportunity to win the game. If you play it safe at home and get a tie, you guarantee yourself another opportunity to bat. And this is generally how Lou has played it this season, or at least it seems to be the case. I disagree. Lou always seems to be playing for the win. That's why the criticisms of him never having any players left on the bench for extra innings pop up. He puts his players in the best position to win in 9 even at the expense of having problems in extra innings because as he has said repeatedly, he hates extra innings and will do anything possible to avoid it. -
Will Hendry be fired if the Cubs miss the playoffs?
CubColtPacer replied to CardsFanInChiTown's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Naturally it depends on what kind of organization or investor group takes over but in all probability whether or not the Cubs make the playoffs this year depends on the players on the field and coaches in the dugout. Obviously Hendry has provided the talent pool to compete as they are leading the division with 33 games remaining. Now the question really is does Hendry have a long term future with the club? My guess is that yes as does Piniella and staff through at least 2008 depending on the performance. The real culprit was not Hendry it was MacPhail who handcuffed the Cubs payroll so MacPhail could make the case that he is Commissioner material, pandering to the small and mid market clubs (KC, Mil, Minn, Pitt, TB, FL, Oak, Was, and mid-market clubs; SD, AZ, Clev, Cinc, StL, Den, SF's, Balt, Tex, Seattle, Tor, Det) who actually own the majority votes against the 10 biggees: NYY, BSOX, NYM, LAD, LAA, Cubs, CSox, Phil, Atl, & Hou It is about payroll and MacPhail put the Cubs in the mid-market payroll category and not the big market category....($125-135M) which would have given the Cubs a real RF'er, all star catcher or starting pitcher and another bench performer), but he kept the Cubs at $90-100M....That is your culprit. What a bunch of bs. How many teams have a 125-135 million dollar payroll, outside of the Yankees and Red Sox? Hendry has been given plenty of money to work with since 2003, and hes done nothing with it. The Cubs since Hendry has been here have been in the top 5 in payroll more often than not. To say Hendry has worked with a mid market payroll is a joke. That's actually not true. The Cubs have been in the top half every year, but not top 5. 2003: 12th in payroll 2004: 6th in payroll 2005: 9th in payroll 2006: 7th in payroll 2007: 8th in payroll So we have been a top 10 team in payroll most years, but never top 5. The Cubs still easily have had enough money to really not put much value on complaining that the funds simply weren't there, but top 5 is overstating it. Also, this is for the entire ML's right? Where have the Cubs been in regards to the National League? Im pretty sure they have been near the top in the NL since Hendry has been here, and thats has equaled 1 playoff team. You are correct on that. On average, AL teams have spent more than NL teams. I'm going to post the Cubs ranking in the NL, the amount of money they spent, and the amount of money spent by the 8th NL team (right around average) 2003: 7th in NL. Cubs-86.58 million, 8th place-79.95 million 2004: 3rd, Cubs-91.1 million, 8th-74.67 million 2005: 6th, Cubs-87.03 million, 8th-83.04 2006: 3rd, Cubs-94.42 million, 8th-88.27 2007: 3rd, Cubs-99.67 million, 8th-87.29 million From looking over the numbers, the Mets typically are the leaders in the NL in payroll. After that, the Dodgers, Cubs, Cardinals, Giants, Phillies, Astros, and Braves are all typically pretty close to each other. The Cubs probably have been 5th or 6th best in performance in the Hendry era of those teams that are close to each other in payroll, which is not good out of 7 teams. Those are the 8 teams who spend money in the NL year in and year out, and then there's a big dropoff to teams like the Padres, Brewers, Reds, Rockies, and Diamondbacks. -
Will Hendry be fired if the Cubs miss the playoffs?
CubColtPacer replied to CardsFanInChiTown's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Naturally it depends on what kind of organization or investor group takes over but in all probability whether or not the Cubs make the playoffs this year depends on the players on the field and coaches in the dugout. Obviously Hendry has provided the talent pool to compete as they are leading the division with 33 games remaining. Now the question really is does Hendry have a long term future with the club? My guess is that yes as does Piniella and staff through at least 2008 depending on the performance. The real culprit was not Hendry it was MacPhail who handcuffed the Cubs payroll so MacPhail could make the case that he is Commissioner material, pandering to the small and mid market clubs (KC, Mil, Minn, Pitt, TB, FL, Oak, Was, and mid-market clubs; SD, AZ, Clev, Cinc, StL, Den, SF's, Balt, Tex, Seattle, Tor, Det) who actually own the majority votes against the 10 biggees: NYY, BSOX, NYM, LAD, LAA, Cubs, CSox, Phil, Atl, & Hou It is about payroll and MacPhail put the Cubs in the mid-market payroll category and not the big market category....($125-135M) which would have given the Cubs a real RF'er, all star catcher or starting pitcher and another bench performer), but he kept the Cubs at $90-100M....That is your culprit. What a bunch of bs. How many teams have a 125-135 million dollar payroll, outside of the Yankees and Red Sox? Hendry has been given plenty of money to work with since 2003, and hes done nothing with it. The Cubs since Hendry has been here have been in the top 5 in payroll more often than not. To say Hendry has worked with a mid market payroll is a joke. That's actually not true. The Cubs have been in the top half every year, but not top 5. 2003: 12th in payroll 2004: 6th in payroll 2005: 9th in payroll 2006: 7th in payroll 2007: 8th in payroll So we have been a top 10 team in payroll most years, but never top 5. The Cubs still easily have had enough money to really not put much value on complaining that the funds simply weren't there, but top 5 is overstating it. -
Anybody else concerned about Marmol?
CubColtPacer replied to YearofDaCubs's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Yeah but he threw more innings than that last year. As a starter, with a set schedule and 4 days rest in between. It's not just innings, it's innings as a reliever. He's already got 40 AAA innings as a starter this year as well. He's thrown with 0 or 1 days rest 33 times this year. If he keeps up this pace and the Cubs make the playoffs, his total innings pitched this year will reach 115+. I would doubt there's another reliever on a playoff team that comes anywhere close to that number. There aren't many, but there are a few. Carlos Villenueva has 82.2 IP already in the majors with only 1 start, and now he's in the minors starting. He'll probably have more innings than Marmol overall. He's probably the best example of a reliever on a playoff team who will end up with that number of innings. There are probably a dozen relievers that will end up around 90 IP. There are 6-7 more that have less than 10 starts and will end up with 100-120 IP. So Marmol's workload isn't altogether rare for a swing starter/reliever, but it is on the top end of a reliever's workload. -
Anybody else concerned about Marmol?
CubColtPacer replied to YearofDaCubs's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
One thing that helps is that for the amount of innings Marmol pitches, he doesn't pitch on consecutive days all that often. For a guy who has been a starter, the innings is not as much of a problem as the pitching on back-to back, 3 out of 4 days, etc. Marmol is used a lot, but Lou tries to avoid those situations which has helped Marmol stay fresh. -
Monroe started against a righty today!!!
CubColtPacer replied to RegulusBlue's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Which makes it the right call. Lou trusted his best contact hitter to simply make contact anywhere on the field.....and he didn't. He trusted one of his better judges of the strikezone to not strikeout...and he did. But we're still not factoring in the odds that he hits a liner or a soft flyball that turns into two or even three outs... which squarely place the move back in "wrong" category. Or the factors that the fielders out of position results in a better chance for a hit and that the runners moving means a better chance of scoring on a hit. There are 100 factors here, some of which support the runners moving and some of which don't.

