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C - Victor Martinez 1B - Richie Sexson 2B - Chase Utley SS - Edgar Renteria 3B - Alex Gordon OF - Grady Sizemore OF - Coco Crisp OF - Jeff Francouer UT - Frank Thomas BN - Jeremy Hermida SP - CC Sabathia SP - Scott Kazmir SP - Ted Lilly SP - Anibal Sanchez SP - Chad Billinglsey SP - Hong Kuo RP - Francisco Rodriguez RP - Todd Jones RP - Tim Lincecum RP - Octavio Dotel MVP - Tim Redding I think my team is fair. I obviously need to hit relatively big with Sanchez, Billingsley or Kuo. Of course Redding ...

obvious who i am Round Pick Player Position 1. (11) Chase Utley 2B 2. (18) Grady Sizemore OF 3. (39) Francisco Rodríguez RP 4. (46) Víctor Martínez C,1B 5. (67) Scott Kazmir SP 6. (74) C.C. Sabathia SP 7. (95) Richie Sexson 1B 8. (102) Édgar Rentería SS 9. (123) Jeff Francoeur OF 10. (130) Alex Gordon 3B 11. (151) Coco Crisp OF 12. (158) Todd Jones RP 13. (179) Frank Thomas Util 14. (186) Octavio Dotel RP 15. (207) Ted Lilly SP 16. (214) Anibal Sánchez SP 17. (235) Jeremy Hermida OF 18. (242) Chad Billingsley SP 19. (263) Hong-Chih Kuo SP,RP 20. (270) Tim Lincecum SP 21. (291) Tim Redding SP TIM REDDING NATION BABY

i dont know about you guys, but ronny looks like a baseball player

dont worry ill be teaching math while youre drafting. im gonna try tobring my computer to the tutor room and phase out by 8:30

and this is with no contributions from Prior, I believe.

guys go REALLY slow. Because I don't want to miss too many picks for the first half hour I am not in there

to be fair im not sure when he wrote these but this one made me laugh http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6494682

NC State IP H R ER BB SO AB BF NP -------------------------------------------------- Andrew Brackman..... 7.1 6 0 0 1 7 27 29 113

Price is done: 5.2 IP 5 H 3 ER 2 BB 10 Ks

Tim Redding is interesting. He used to have well above average stuff. No idea how he's looking now though.

Heh, Billy Muldowney's little brother, Brian, doubled off of David Price and later scored. Price has allowed a run on two hits through two innings with four strikeouts.

and to think, Matt isn't an elite walker.

you remember last year's right? Fox and Patterson were ahead of Elbert, Bailey and Hirsh. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6486174

what series are you planning on attending at the juice box? no idea yet. id rather catch rice games at reckling than astro games ;)

and angel guzman

I guess we should be thanking his son.

Ill get my Cubs tickets on game day at the box office at the ballpark no problems. Good seats too. Unfortunately it'll be at Enron Field.

12 team league on yahoo. Dig It View All Round Pick Player Position 1. (9) Miguel Cabrera 3B 2. (16) Manny Ramírez OF 3. (33) Aramis Ramírez 3B 4. (40) Michael Young SS 5. (57) Félix Hernández SP 6. (64) Ben Sheets SP 7. (81) Rocco Baldelli OF 8. (88) Cole Hamels SP 9. (105) Rich Hill SP 10. (112) Jason Giambi 1B 11. (129) Jonathan Papelbon RP 12. (136) Tadahito Iguchi 2B 13. (153) Mark Prior SP 14. (160) Coco Crisp OF 15. (177) Mike González RP 16. (184) Bengie Molina C 17. (201) Marcus Giles 2B 18. (208) Curtis Granderson OF 19. (225) John Patterson SP 20. (232) Brandon Inge 3B 21. (249) Craig Monroe OF Ive also agreed to a trade that will go final tomorrow if it's not vetoed. Praise be to kent that it hasn't yet. I get: Hanley Ramirez Derrek Lee Bobby Jenks I give: Jason Giambi Michael Young Jonathan Papelbon I get me 35 saves and 70 steals while keeping the same BA and losing oh 30 or so RBIs. I stole that deal. <3

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Your argument is wrong. 2003 and 2004 were okay teams, but they won only 88 and 89 games, well off the pace of the best in baseball, because they relied so heavily on pitching and had such lackluster offenses. As the offenses got worse and worse, the losses mounted. 04 was a 100 win team if Wood and Prior were healthy.

Heh, I don't even know why I bother reading stuff of sites like their's for baseball.

oh man i so knew beane was about to come up the writing was on the wall, so to speak.

I'm not one to PM someone and say I was a jerk. I'm admittedly a 'Richard' sometimes.

No, I am saying that most people who cite them don't. I wasn't mentioning names.

I don't know. These threads seem to follow the same pattern. 1.) OMG STATS SUCK/ CHIVALROUS TRADITIONALISM ROCKS 2.) cites a bunch of numbers the person citing cant use properly 3.) OMG NERD! 4.) OMG IT WORKS 5.) NO WAY! 6.) Explanation 7.) REALLY!? 8.) Billy Beane, TTO and Adam Dunn are Gods. Convert or Die. 9.) Go back to #1 in another thread.