Mephistopheles

Yeah the Angels are going to trade two of their best prospects and a good young pitcher for one year of Big Z. That's a terrible article.

david price didnt pitch yesterday due to an illness. the vandy game today was postponed. dunno if hell start tomorrow in their doubleheader andrew brackman is pitching as we speak, well hes supposed to be.... Matt Wieters hit his second homer of the season last night, he went 1 for 4 with a walk against Illi-Chicago.

You pretty much had to make that pick. I know. Oh well.

1) Albert Pujols 1-2) Jose Reyes 1-3) Johan Santana 1-4) Alfonso Soriano 1-5) Alex Rodriguez 1-6) Carlos Beltran 1-7) Ryan Howard 1-8) Miguel Cabrera 1-9) Carl Crawford 1-10) Chase Utley 1-11) Derrek Lee 1-12) Chris Carpenter 2-1) David Wright 2-2) Lance Berkman 2-3) Grady Sizemore 2-4) David Ortiz 2-5) Vladimir Guerrero 2-6) Manny Ramirez 2-7) Mark Teixeira 2-8) Travis Hafner 2-9) Derek Jeter 2-10) Carlos Lee 2-11) Matt Holliday 2-12) Carlos Zambrano 3-1) Jake Peavy 3-2) Aramis Ramirez 3-3) Justin Morneau 3-4) Joe Mauer 3-5) Paul Konerko 3-6) Miguel Tejada 3-7) Jason Bay 3-8) Hanley Ramirez 3-9) Jimmy Rollins 3-10) Roy Halladay 3-11) Brandon Webb 3-12) Dan Haren 4-1) Garrett Atkins 4-2) Ichiro 4-3) Vernon Wells 4-4) Brian McCann 4-5) Roy Oswalt 4-6) Felix Hernandez 4-7) Ben Sheets 4-8) Bobby Abreu 4-9) Jeremy Bonderman 4-10) Andruw Jones 4-11) Victor Martinez 4-12) Jermaine Dye 5-1) Michael Young 5-2) Robby Cano 5-3) Rafael Furcal 5-4) Francisco Rodriguez 5-5) Bill Hall 5-6) Cole Hamels 5-7) Brian Roberts 5-8) Joe Nathan 5-9) Adam Dunn 5-10) Ryan Zimmerman 5-11) Carlos Guillen 5-12) Chone Figgins 6-1) Daisuke Matsuzaka 6-2) Jim Thome 6-3) John Lackey 6-4) B.J. Ryan 6-5) Carlos Delgado 6-6) Billy Wagner 6-7) Rocco Baldelli 6-8) Rich Hill 6-9) Troy Glaus 6-10) Justin Verlander 6-11) Aaron Harang 6-12) John Smoltz 7-1) Ian Kinsler 7-2) Johnny Damon 7-3) Mariano Rivera 7-4) Jered Weaver 7-5) Huston Street 7-6) Brett Myers 7-7) Matt Cain 7-8) Scott Kazmir 7-9) Curt Schilling 7-10) Felipe Lopez 7-11) Hideki Matsui 7-12) Nick Swisher 8-1) Bobby Jenks 8-2) Jason Schmidt 8-3) Rickie Weeks 8-4) C.C. Sabathia 8-5) Dan Uggla 8-6) Juan Pierre 8-7) JJ Putz 8-8) Randy Johnson 8-9) Howie Kendrick 8-10) Rich Harden 8-11) Prince Fielder 8-12) Michael Barrett 9-1) Brad Lidge 9-2) Chris Young 9-3) Chipper Jones 9-4) Jeff Francoeur 9-5) Pat Burrell 9-6) Scott Rolen 9-7) Erik Bedard 9-8) Gary Sheffield 9-9) Trevor Hoffman 9-10) Richie Sexson 9-11) Barry Zito 9-12) Dontrelle Willis 10-1) Todd Helton 10-2) Takashi Saito 10-3) Mike Piazza 10-4) Delmon Young 10-5) Chad Cordero 10-6) Josh Beckett 10-7) AJ Burnett 10-8) Jonathan Papelbon 10-9) Tom Gordon 10-10) Julio Lugo 10-11) Barry Bonds 10-12) Corey Patterson 11-1) Chad Tracy 11-2) JD Drew 11-3) Francisco Cordero 11-4) Ervin Santana 11-5) Chris Ray 11-6) Coco Crisp 11-7) Stephen Drew 11-8) Bronson Arroyo 11-9) Jason Giambi 11-10) Brian Fuentes 11-11) Brandon Phillips 11-12) Alex Rios 12-1) Michael Cuddyer 12-2) Jason Isringhausen 12-3) Chien-Ming Wang 12-4) John Patterson 12-5) Magglio Ordonez 12-6) Eric Gagne 12-7) Tadahito Iguchi 12-8) Ryan Freel 12-9) Torii Hunter 12-10) Frank Thomas 12-11) Kelvim Escobar 12-12) Adam LaRoche 13-1)Willy Taveras 13-2) Joel Zumaya 13-3) Raul Ibanez 13-4) Adrian Gonzalez 13-5) Scott Podsednik 13-6) Bob Wickman 13-7) Nick Markakis 13-8) Nomar Garciaparra 13-9) Mike Mussina 13-10) Brad Hawpe 13-11) Dave Bush 13-12) Russell Martin 14-1) Mark Prior 14-2) Eric Chavez 14-3) Kenji Johjima 14-4) Anthony Reyes 14-5) Ramon Hernandez 14-6) Roger Clemens 14-7) Lyle Overbay 14-8) Scott Olsen 14-9) Nate Robertson 14-10) Derek Lowe 14-11) Jonathon Broxton 14-12) Chuck James 15-1) Hank Blalock 15-2) Aubrey Huff 15-3) Jorge Posada 15-4) Chris Capuano 15-5) Javier Vazquez 15-6) Octavio Dotel 15-7) Joe Crede 15-8) Josh Willingham 15-9) Josh Barfield 15-10) Brad Penny 15-11) Ivan Rodriguez 15-12) Jhonny Peralta 16-1) Adam Wainwright 16-2) Andy Pettitte 16-3) Jose Valverde 16-4) Alex Gordon 16-5) Anibal Sanchez 16-6) Solomon Torres 16-7) Keith Foulke 16-8) Bengie Molina 16-9) Dustin Pedroia 16-10) Pedro Martinez 16-11) Moises Alou 16-12) Ryan Dempster 17-1) Ray Durham 17-2) Josh Johnson 17-3) Mike Gonzalez 17-4) Chris Young 17-5) Ted Lilly 17-6) Greg Maddux 17-7) Mark Teahen 17-8) Jon Garland 17-9) B.J. Upton 17-10) Clay Hensley 17-11) Scott Shields 17-12) Edger Renteria 18-1) Eric Byrnes 18-2) Jeff Kent 18-3) Kevin Millwood 18-4) Philip Hughes 18-5) Chad Billingsley 18-6) Jason Varitek 18-7) Tom Glavine 18-8) Freddy Sanchez 18-9) Adrian Beltre 18-10) Orlando Cabrera 18-11) Nick Johnson 18-12) Ken Griffey Jr. 19-1)Tim Hudson 19-2) Edwin Encarnacion 19-3) Todd Jones 19-4) Freddy Garcia 19-5) Jose Contreras 19-6) AJ Pierzynski 19-7) Dave Roberts 19-8) Jim Edmonds 19-9) Morgan Ensberg 19-10) Matt Garza 19-11) Jeremy Hermida 19-12) Mark Buehrle 20-1) Shane Victorino 20-2) Brian Giles 20-3) Curtis Granderson 20-4) Corey Hart 20-5) Conor Jackson 20-6) Jeremy Sowers 20-7) Joe Borowski

I find it hard to believe that an orginzation can even think about not giving a spot in the rotation after having a September and August like Rich had.

What a dysfunctional organization.

I'd prefer that afternoon if at all possible. I tutor Monday, Wednesday and Sunday nights. Though Im done by 8 on weeknights. If this sunday night time works out best for most of the league that's fine.

The draft time won't work well for me. I have an exam the next morning at 8 AM and I tutor from 7-9 CST.

KC and TB wont skip to the HS prospects unless one really comes on (alot)

It wasn't his stuff that was a problem when he came up to the majors though-it was his control. If he gets better control, he could be effective even at 89-90 with all the movement on his pitches. I've never really been that big of a Miller fan. I see him as a slightly better version of Marquis but can't pitch because he hasn't been healthy. That's a poor comparison.

Wasn't Mark notorious for throwing more than other people to warm up in '03?

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/ranking-organizations/ dont know how much stock to put into it, if any but interesting nonetheless.

Steve Trachsel has a 2.23 ERA in his Wins Steve Trachsel has a 6.81 ERA in his Losses Terry Mulholland has a career 2.30 ERA in his Wins Terry Mulholland has a career 6.89 ERA in his Losses Pedro Astacio has a career 2.44 ERA in his Wins Pedro Astacio has a career 8.17 ERA in his Losses Rich Hill has a career 1.36 ERA in his Wins Rich Hill has a career 10.30 ERA in his Losses Do you understand my point? Or do I have to spell it out? You just partitioned his good and bad starts. Everyone has similar splits...how often you have good and don't have bad starts determines how good you are. Unfortunately that 7+ ERA happened in half of his decisions.

And my 16th round pick decides to retire, great.

Then what are they? The people ahead of me replied too fast. I was responding to this: Anyways since his bat has been brought into the discussion. Sure I and others probably short-change his overall impact because he's a Zambrano with the bat (and Z's bat made him as good as Carp in Carp's Cy Young season). It's not hard to analyze his bats impact. The average pitcher in the league has an equivalent average of about .128 give or take a bit. Jason's career is .194 and he's averaged about .220 the last three seasons. He's good for 60 outs of production and that's all of five runs with the difference in EqA. He's good for 200 innings so those five runs come out to about .25 on his ERA/RA give or take relative to an average hitting pitcher. So subtract from whatever ERA total you're looking at...hello 5.26 PECOTA ERA. He's almost under five!

While there's a likely chance that Marquis will improve over his '06 numbers, it makes no sense to include Carpenter as a point of reference. Marquis has been healthy his entire career unlike Carpenter and Marquis doesn't have the FB, curve, control, or command of Carpenter. check out cc's walk totals with toronto. Okay 1998 - 2.6 1999 - 2.1 2000 - 3.4 2001 - 2.8 EqBB per 9. Marquis career is 3.1. Again Carpenter IS NOT THE STANDARD. Sure Marquis can do what he did, but theres like a 1 in 100 chance. Not a very good chance...

Aren't you really cool....

Okay if you don't care you probably shouldn't be posting.

Yeah why don't you go read what I was calling him out on.

and Carpenter did that in Toronto against the powerhouse Yankees and Red Sox.

Carpenter is the outsider, not the normal path and his DERA in Toronto was NOWHERE near as bad as Marquis'.

I edited my post-I didn't read your post on DERA or NRA until after I had finished my post, and as I said in that post, I'd need to know the exact calculations that went into it before attaching the credibility to I that it probably deserves. this isn't going to be exactly the same.... FIP ERA = C - 2*K/IP + 3*BB/IP + 13*HR/IP; C is a league environment constant Modified versions use HR = 12.5%*OFB%*BF/IP give or take. Take and put it into this equation = League FIP^2/(FIP^2 + League Fip^2) = WPCT Then WPCT = 4.5^2/(DFIP^2 + 4.5^2) DFIP = [(4.5^2*WPCT - 4.5^2)/(-WPCT)]^(1/2) it's pretty much that.

Um, did you just decide to not read? 4.50 in DERA is league average. It's adjusted to make it that. His career DERA is 5.13. Not. Close.

and all you need to know is that NRA and DERA has 4.50 = league average and that NRA is NOT defense independent.

as i edited in. 2001 was a bit of a fluke because of RA/ERA. 2004 was just a bit of luck. He was probably close to average overall then because of his 60+ GB rate. 2005 was a lot of luck. As I said a pitcher only controls like 1/4 of his ERA.