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Players being ok with it doesn't mean much to me. Sports culture is ok with a lot things that society at large isn't, or shouldn't, be ok with. The players and the business are more important than we are. If a guy is eligible to play and is good enough to play, my guess is any team would employ him if it helps them win. This isn't a "would" conversation though. It's a "should" conversation. The only baseball discussion to be had here is whether the price was too high or not. The team is most assuredly better with Chapman on the team. But saying "well if we didn't, some other team would have" doesn't absolve the moral dilemma that comes with this acquisition.

Players being ok with it doesn't mean much to me. Sports culture is ok with a lot things that society at large isn't, or shouldn't, be ok with.

Pooooooooooor Chapman!!! Won't anyone think of the man that just served a domestic violence suspension and at a minimum fired a gun eight times in his garage scaring his girlfriend into hiding in the bushes?! And, according to her initial story, choked her and pushed her against a wall? So mistreated! You were there for the whole thing and know exactly what happened? that's fascinating please continue to tell us all about it. I hate that people assume whatever a woman says to the police is 100% accurate. What he said happened and what she said happened were very different stories. I'm not saying he didn't do anything wrong but Jesus you weren't there how the hell do you know what went down? Reporters weren't there either. There's a reason why the police didn't pursue the case. I don't feel sorry for either one of them, they had issues, they worked them out apparently. I don't care what happened in their personal life. Frankly I don't think anyone needs to be judging the guy. He went through the legal and baseball judgement and served a suspension. Nothing is going to change what happened. He's here now, probably only for a few months. Enjoy his pitching dominance and move on. I'm too busy at work today to tear into this appropriately, but I'll just say that you need to read more about domestic violence, why victims don't report or retract their reports, and why they stay with abusers. It's far more important than baseball.

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Pooooooooooor Chapman!!! Won't anyone think of the man that just served a domestic violence suspension and at a minimum fired a gun eight times in his garage scaring his girlfriend into hiding in the bushes?! And, according to her initial story, choked her and pushed her against a wall? So mistreated!

Of course it would.

The guy that runs it is active in the Nationals subreddit.

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Man am I glad I didn't share that stat with anyone. That would've been embarrassing!

Oh, is that how it works? Murders and child molesters get out and then they have no troubles after that? No trouble getting jobs or anything? They don't have to register with authorities, or attend therapy, or notify neighbors about their past? They just get out and move along as normal? Matt Bush is a pretty bad dude and even went to prison...and by bad guy I mean a really bad guy. He beat the [expletive] out of a high schooler with a golf club, ran over the head of a 74 year old while drunk, is a suspect in multiple hit and runs and has run up a tidy 3 DUIs in his lifetime. It's weird that he's portrayed in the media as some feel good story. He shouldn't be allowed to play Major League Baseball but he throws hard...and is white? This is how our society works. I'll admit I don't know much about Matt Bush, but assuming everything you said is accurate, that dude should never have played again.

Sounds like an easily accommodated technicality. Funny thing is...Ventura isn't really the villain here.

Oh, is that how it works? Murders and child molesters get out and then they have no troubles after that? No trouble getting jobs or anything? They don't have to register with authorities, or attend therapy, or notify neighbors about their past? They just get out and move along as normal?

Falcons released Devin Hester.

Oh, this is a guy we already banned for a post like this a while back. Bye bye.

Yeah, good point. Locking this. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=420

A first post criticizing the community...this is gonna go well.

Are Sox fans chanting something?

1) Drinking is not a justification for anything. 2) A woman not wanting to press charges against her batterer is EXTREMELY COMMON. 3) You are aren't defending what he did, you're diminishing it.

If you want to be upset at acquiring Chapman, feel free. I've said more than once that's more than justified. But at least acknowledge that there's not going to be a response that makes it right for you. The statement talks about working with his girlfriend to improve their relationship and raise their son together. That's just talk, but you can fake your way through anger management too. There was never going to be a meaningful sentiment behind a statement like this, but for what it is it hits the right notes. All true except for the part about the right notes. I don't think it hit any notes.

I mean, he literally says "I regret that I did not exercise better judgment and for that I am truly sorry". It's just words on a page so it doesn't undo anything that he did, but a small part of the irritation with Chapman was his lack of remorse. A professional hobby of mine is giving and evaluating apologies, and that's a pretty good one. It doesn't hide behind passive wording like apologize, or separate himself from the behaviors by saying he's sorry for the effects of his behavior. He's directly saying he's sorry for his (admittedly ambiguous) actions, and like Brett just pointed out on Twitter, he didn't have to do this as a guy who was traded (there's no extra motivation like a contract for him). Again, it doesn't undo anything that happened and people are still right to not be happy, but this is what handling the acquisition properly looks like given the realities of the situation. Cool, he's sorry. He didn't say what he did. He didn't say he'd done anything or taken any action to prevent further issues in the future. Maybe some anger management counseling... Handling the acquisition properly would've been to have not made it.

I've also compartmentalized in the past, in mostly the same instances you have, but I'm extremely tired of doing so. And for right now, I'm angry at the Cubs for putting me in the position where I have to do it again.

Sorry for you, but I'd be pretty ok with the Chris Sale game getting rained out.

That doesn't do anything for me. Aroldis did not take responsibility for his actions. http://deadspin.com/aroldis-chapman-still-says-he-did-nothing-wrong-1775469754

Thoughts like this are the reason why domestic violence is so easily overlooked or disregarded.