I used to love listening to Dibble and Kennedy until they started taking basically the same stance as Phillips, Kruk, Joe Morgan, etc. All of these guys seem to take the "innocent until proven guilty" stance. Don't get me wrong - that is the American way, but come on - we are not idiots and we know that these guys have everything to lose if they buck the system (example: Curt Flood, Lenny Dykstra, Jose Canseco). That is why I give respect to Karl Ravich for stating the obvious, despite what the lapdogs are spewing.