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Those are some of the unnecessarily rude remarks that littered your argument. I think you're trying to say Kenny Williams isn't that good. Maybe you're saying Kenny Williams may or may not be good, but we can't come to the conclusion on that based solely on wins and losses. I think you have some good points, about how it's not just wins and losses, but the circumstances in which those wins and losses were obtained. But I also think you overcomplicate the argument and never come to any sort of conclusion, while instead just trying to rip apart the other person. To me, wins and losses are the most important way to judge a GM. What that GM had to work with means a lot though. For instance, 88, 89 and 79 wins, for a GM with a top 5 payroll and consistently increading budget looks to me like failure. While the same number of wins for a GM with a bottom 10 budget that is static or decreasing might be an accomplishment. As for Kenny Williams, I don't think he did a great job. I think his team overachieved a bit this year, but I also think he has to get credit for putting a team out there that was capable of 90+ wins, especially when he had a midrange payroll. What is your stance?
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Marquee is not an official designation. To me, it denotes a game of great interest. Personally, if an undefeated Big Ten team is playing at the previous year's champion this far into the season, I call it interesting. I'll be watching, and my bet is millions of others will be as well. Not everybody has to love the game to make it marquee. I probably won't watch much of FLA/LSU, but I won't argue that it's a marquee matchup. If the PSU/UM game isn't good enough for you, then don't watch it. Don't poop on other people's fun. Frankly, I'm just hoping one of PSU/UM or ND/USC ends up interesting. I'm not trying to dismiss the game but just point out it is more of a Midwest game than national. People speak of eastcoast bias and there is but IMO this is a Midwestern thing not national. For selfish reasons I want at least 3 teams to end up being undefeated...USC/UCLA, Texas, Penn State and Florida St/VTech. Maybe this will cause a playoff. FYI, both Michigan and PSU are huge in NY and New Jersey. It ain't just midwest.
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They do have the best offence in baseball in terms of runs scored after adjustments for ballpark. However, Tony Womack is what you're wondering. Womack really didn't play though, he had 2 postseason AB's.
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Well I like giving Cashman a good bashing more than anyone, so much so I've made "most ineffective GM in baseball" his new nickname, but I seriously doubt you'd be too much better. To surpass Cashman, you'd above all have to be able to talk Steinbrenner and the rest of the Yankee brass into actually letting you make the decisions. Two things: I didn't say I'd do much better. I didn't say I'd do any better. I said I could build a team that would compete with Cashman's I didn't say I could run the Yankees better than he can, I said, "if you gave me the Yankees payroll". No doubt the best work Cashman has done in his tenure is by not going ballistic to the press yet, and getting fired. I have no idea how I'd handle working as George's GM.
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When I read what you wrote it sounded an awful lot like a personal attack, or maybe more accurately, a bunch of unwarrented insults. Well why, Goony, as it interests me so, don't you enlighten me as to which parts you found particularly unsavoury. Or, better yet, actually focus on the gist of my argument. I mean, sure, what I wrote is absolutely plagued with some of the worst personal attacking since October 2003 Don Zimmer, but in there, somewhere, if you look closely enough, you might just be able to find me making a point that has so far been untouched by even your critical eye(s). I'm not trying to get in the middle of this. I really have no idea what you are arguing anyway. I don't see what's gotten you all riled up. All I'm saying is that when I read that, I thought to myself, "wow, this guy must really be pissed at that guy."
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Marquee is not an official designation. To me, it denotes a game of great interest. Personally, if an undefeated Big Ten team is playing at the previous year's champion this far into the season, I call it interesting. I'll be watching, and my bet is millions of others will be as well. Not everybody has to love the game to make it marquee. I probably won't watch much of FLA/LSU, but I won't argue that it's a marquee matchup. If the PSU/UM game isn't good enough for you, then don't watch it. Don't poop on other people's fun. Frankly, I'm just hoping one of PSU/UM or ND/USC ends up interesting.
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How many times do I have to say this? Nobody is saying Michigan is marquee. They are saying the game is a marquee matchup. Nobody is claiming it is THE marquee matchup either, just one of the few.
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I love it. He's no Sojo.
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Chances for glory? What glory do they get for being on a list of marquee matchups this weekend in college football? Sorry it's not a Big East matchup. Perhaps Rutgers/Syracuse deserves more glory. It's an undefeated Big Ten team, facing the previous year's conference champion. That's a marquee matchup.
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When I read what you wrote it sounded an awful lot like a personal attack, or maybe more accurately, a bunch of unwarrented insults.
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That's absurd. It'll draw tons of eyeballs, that makes it a marquee matchup. Marquee doesn't mean two top 10 teams. It doesn't mean two great teams. It means a very interesting matchup that lots of people will want to see, in other words, put those names on the marquee and the crowds will follow. I can't believe you're making that big of a deal of this. I'm not a fan of either team but I can acknowledge that it deserves attention. Whenever an undefeated Big Ten leader is playing against a team that stands a chance at winning, it's worthy of attention.
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They would be 4-3, with two wins vs top 12 teams. If PSU looks bad, UM wins and MSU loses, I wouldn't assume they will get back in the rankings. There are 6-7 other teams ahead of them in the "others receiving votes" category. And they will jump over everyone of them. The good ole boys continue to get all the chances. So what if they go up to 22? It doesn't really do them any good in the long haul. It's not like they have a chance for a BCS game. Regardless, the Big Ten lead is on the line with two traditionally strong teams playing, one of which is undefeated and a dark horse national championship contender, tell me again why this shouldn't be considered a marquee game.
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They would be 4-3, with two wins vs top 12 teams. If PSU looks bad, UM wins and MSU loses, I wouldn't assume they will get back in the rankings. There are 6-7 other teams ahead of them in the "others receiving votes" category.
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I don't think you're breaking any news here. They are out of the top 25. Not many think they are elite. But that doesn't mean this weekend's game isn't a marquee matchup. So a Michigan 2-7 would still make it a marque matchup? I understand they have a big name and all but a 2-3 team in college football is not marque in any way. Nobody said Michigan was marquee, they said the game was marquee, and that is absolutely accurate. PSU is coming off a huge home victory, a letdown is almost expected. PSU is the last undefeated in the Big Ten, going on the road to a place that isn't easy to visit. It's not like Michigan has been terrible, they are 3-3, 1-1 against ranked teams. If an undefeated Georgia was going to a 3-3 Florida, it would still be billed as a marquee matchup.
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I don't think you're breaking any news here. They are out of the top 25. Not many think they are elite. But that doesn't mean this weekend's game isn't a marquee matchup.
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:shock: Sorry, but you couldn't be more wrong in my eyes. Getting plus-production (over the league average) out of a position or lineup slot is critical to having a successful team. That is one half of the reasons Walker has so much perceived value to the team or as trade. That is what makes Brian Roberts so insanely valuable. He produced .900+ OPS for a leadoff man and 2B. It's a crime Baltimore didn't win 90 games with kind of plus-production out of that position and slot. With the Chicago Cubs, the 3-4 hitters are a known quality. Finding plus-production out of 1-2 slots is the only way to turn this team around. And it's worth paying for, or even overpaying IMO. Walker - $2.5m, valuable. Damon - $10m, overpriced. It's not the slot that determines value, it's the position. Damon is a productive CF. He's not even close to a great one though. He's got Hollywood written all over him, and is not reliably consistent. I won't be pissed if he's a Cub, but like Furcal, I'd be pissed if he was the headliner this offseason.
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He needs to be watched closely. He should never be used for more than an inning. He's very far from elite, and not even great. But if you use him right, you can get your money's worth and then some.
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Bears @ Browns - Sunday, 10/9, 1pm(E) Fox (Directv 704)
goonys evil twin replied to goonys evil twin's topic in Other Sports
You and Whitlock share that opinion. Me, I'm not so sure. there aren't many out there with marino-like arms. All I know is the guy was in the league for about a dozen years and was never very good. I think he completed 60% of his passes maybe twice, and never in his last 5-6 seasons. He hasn't competed since '01. We're not talking about Marino here, not even close. He's got an arm, but in his career he's never proven he has anything else. It takes more than a powerful arm to win football games. This isn't a baseball team in need of pitching with Randy Johnson waiting for a call. -
I don't buy the "he hasn't helped Team X win a ring, how will he help our team?" argument. A lot of that same stuff was said about Pudge in Texas. What matters to me is production, and ARod's production is enormous.
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I don't think it's more unreasonable than Jeter's salary, and he's had his down postseasons. His overall salary is ridiculous, but the amount his team actually pays isn't that bad, relatively speaking (less than Giambi, Mussina and Jeter).
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Bears @ Browns - Sunday, 10/9, 1pm(E) Fox (Directv 704)
goonys evil twin replied to goonys evil twin's topic in Other Sports
You and Whitlock share that opinion. Me, I'm not so sure. -
Yeah, his avg was bad this year. And so was the Big Unit's ERA. Some guys have huge series, some guys have bad series. It happens. From year to year that changes. And over time it tends to even out, which to me is why it's silly to say things like choke/clutch. A guy making $25 mil isn't allowed a "bad year", even if it's just a few post-season games, in my opinion. When you're making that kind of money, and your team is fortunate enough to make the playoffs, you'd better be a "money player". Okay then. Unreasonable expectations are cool. The more people badmouthing ARod the better, hopefully he gets traded and hopefully he comes to the Cubs. I'll take my chances on that "bad year" every time.
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Bears @ Browns - Sunday, 10/9, 1pm(E) Fox (Directv 704)
goonys evil twin replied to goonys evil twin's topic in Other Sports
George was on the Bears last year. They could have brought him back this year. They did not. This makes me believe it's rather futile to wish for his return. -
Yeah, his avg was bad this year. And so was the Big Unit's ERA. Some guys have huge series, some guys have bad series. It happens. From year to year that changes. And over time it tends to even out, which to me is why it's silly to say things like choke/clutch.
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He only costs the Yanks about $16m per season. I could see them paying another $2m per in a byebye deal. ARod at $25m is too much, but he wouldn't cost the Cubs $25m. ARod at $14-16m is incredibly valuable. Nomar would have made $11m this year if healthy, and he wouldn't have come close to ARod's production.