NonProfitCow

Must have been some sort of fall out with Antonetti. I really wanted Antonetti, but, I guess we'll see what Jocketty's protege can do.

number of times on disabled list x 20 Because that's how many times they should have been on the dl if not for their grittiness.

Really? You weren't impressed with that? I was, then again I was watching Mike Maroth quite a bit so...

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He doesn't seem to fit DeWitt's profile. Honestly, I think he does. Great player development, good at mixing vets with young players. But I do think this means that he is just done as a GM in the league.

Throw the kitchen sink at him? Schuerholz likes kitchens?

I'm gonna say Schuerholz to STL. :lol: OK, I'm dreaming, but I did not see this coming.

WOW! This is a horrible decision. http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/32456B7DBB9EEC44862573690069E6D7?OpenDocument

Oh, OK. I guess I was just trying to think objectively about sample size and injury. Bottom line is Mulder doesn't "suck" if Ankiel can catch a simple fly ball.

Dunn Grand Slam!!!!!!!!!!!!Wow that was a monstrous shot my God. 5-1 Cincy in the 3rd. Its safe to say, Mulder sucks I think it's safer to say that Ankiel is a terrible outfielder. Yea Cause HGH is the one who threw the meat pitch to Dunn that is still flying Actually, I saw the ball come down. Edmonds actually picked it up and threw it into the stands. Anyways, yes, Mulder threw the pitch to Dunn. Does that mean he sucks? That's happened to a lot of pitchers this year. He's even hit 4 against the Cubs :shock: If Ankiel could have caught a lazy fly ball, Dunn wouldn't be hitting with the bases loaded and may not have even hit that inning. Whats Mulders stats for the year? How about last yeat? Enough said Terrible. And, terrible. He was also injured last year and is making his second start this year.

Dunn Grand Slam!!!!!!!!!!!!Wow that was a monstrous shot my God. 5-1 Cincy in the 3rd. Its safe to say, Mulder sucks I think it's safer to say that Ankiel is a terrible outfielder. Yea Cause HGH is the one who threw the meat pitch to Dunn that is still flying Actually, I saw the ball come down. Edmonds actually picked it up and threw it into the stands. Anyways, yes, Mulder threw the pitch to Dunn. Does that mean he sucks? That's happened to a lot of pitchers this year. He's even hit 4 against the Cubs :shock: If Ankiel could have caught a lazy fly ball, Dunn wouldn't be hitting with the bases loaded and may not have even hit that inning.

Dunn Grand Slam!!!!!!!!!!!!Wow that was a monstrous shot my God. 5-1 Cincy in the 3rd. Its safe to say, Mulder sucks I think it's safer to say that Ankiel is a terrible outfielder.

SopCast is incredible

Was about to throw the ball in the bleachers... But didnt. Hes cool You think maybe it was because of the unmerciful heckling he receives?

In a 3 way tie, the team with the best head to head against the other two teams has a choice. They can either A) 1) let the other two teams play a game on Monday, and then they travel to the winner of that game OR 2) have to beat both of the other two teams, but both at home. The only two teams eligible for this choice are the Cardinals and Cubs right now, as the Brewers are way back in the head to head. Cubs 16-10 Cardinals 11-12 So if the Cubs won the choice (which is likely), my guess is that they'd choose to travel to the winner of the Cardinals/Brewers. You'd always rather be the road team for 1 game than the home team needing to win 2 in a row. Holy crap this could be some beautiful drama!

I believe 3 way ties come down to record against each other, the Brewers would lose out and the team with the better record between the Cubs and Cardinals would take it. Would the Cubs and Cards play the tie-break or would it just go to head to head record?

I think that you should read the thread again, because I am not advocating cheating in any way. I will flat out say that it is wrong. However, I have stated that I understand why guys use PED's and I probably would as well. Again, not advocating it, just saying I would do it. I think that Ankiel will say that it was a long time ago and he was wrong for having used it.

Would you also teach your kids it's OK to cheat their way through college so they could get better grades and presumably a higher paying job? Or to trade on inside information in violation of the securities laws because it would allow them to make a great deal of money? Absolutely not, but those aren't games meant for public enjoyment.[/quote] So you would be OK teaching your kids that being unethical, not following the rules and cheating is OK as long as it's in a "game meant for public enjoyment" and it allowed them to make a lot of money? Not the lesson I would want to teach my kids but hey to each his own. Let me ask you a question. Imagine you are a 24 year old minor league pitcher. You know the only thing keeping you from becoming a major leaguer is a better fastball. If you thought you could take something that would give you an extra 5-8mph on your fastball and get you to the big leagues, would you take it or just continue to toil in the minors for no money knowing you're not going to make it? Would I place fame and fortune above honesty and integrity? NO, I couldn't live with myself. I would hang up the cleats and find a way to make a honest living. I'd have less money but at least when I talked to my kids about values like honesty and integrity I could look them in the eye and wouldn't be a hypochrite. Now how about answering my question. Sure. What's the question? So you would be OK teaching your kids that being unethical, not following the rules and cheating is OK as long as it's in a "game meant for public enjoyment" and it allowed them to make a lot of money? No, I wouldn't teach them that. Oh I see. Your one of those do as I say not as I do guys. Not a walk the talk guy like me. Oh well like I said to each his own. I guess if you just want to speak in generalities. I can own up to having made mistakes and bad decisions. But hey, the rest of us can't be perfect right?

Would you also teach your kids it's OK to cheat their way through college so they could get better grades and presumably a higher paying job? Or to trade on inside information in violation of the securities laws because it would allow them to make a great deal of money? Absolutely not, but those aren't games meant for public enjoyment.[/quote] So you would be OK teaching your kids that being unethical, not following the rules and cheating is OK as long as it's in a "game meant for public enjoyment" and it allowed them to make a lot of money? Not the lesson I would want to teach my kids but hey to each his own. Let me ask you a question. Imagine you are a 24 year old minor league pitcher. You know the only thing keeping you from becoming a major leaguer is a better fastball. If you thought you could take something that would give you an extra 5-8mph on your fastball and get you to the big leagues, would you take it or just continue to toil in the minors for no money knowing you're not going to make it? Would I place fame and fortune above honesty and integrity? NO, I couldn't live with myself. I would hang up the cleats and find a way to make a honest living. I'd have less money but at least when I talked to my kids about values like honesty and integrity I could look them in the eye and wouldn't be a hypochrite. Now how about answering my question. Sure. What's the question? So you would be OK teaching your kids that being unethical, not following the rules and cheating is OK as long as it's in a "game meant for public enjoyment" and it allowed them to make a lot of money? No, I wouldn't teach them that.

Would you also teach your kids it's OK to cheat their way through college so they could get better grades and presumably a higher paying job? Or to trade on inside information in violation of the securities laws because it would allow them to make a great deal of money? Absolutely not, but those aren't games meant for public enjoyment.[/quote] So you would be OK teaching your kids that being unethical, not following the rules and cheating is OK as long as it's in a "game meant for public enjoyment" and it allowed them to make a lot of money? Not the lesson I would want to teach my kids but hey to each his own. Let me ask you a question. Imagine you are a 24 year old minor league pitcher. You know the only thing keeping you from becoming a major leaguer is a better fastball. If you thought you could take something that would give you an extra 5-8mph on your fastball and get you to the big leagues, would you take it or just continue to toil in the minors for no money knowing you're not going to make it? Would I place fame and fortune above honesty and integrity? NO, I couldn't live with myself. I would hang up the cleats and find a way to make a honest living. I'd have less money but at least when I talked to my kids about values like honesty and integrity I could look them in the eye and wouldn't be a hypochrite. Now how about answering my question. Sure. What's the question?

And you've officially made a bigger deal of the spelling of McGwire's name than the mockery he made of baseball. Cool. No, I officially pointed out the spelling mistake. I don't know how he made a mockery of baseball though.

Well, the point I'm trying to make is that MLB needs to put a stop to it now, and stop allowing players to get away with it to the point they've already made their millions. Strip them of their opportunity to earn millions by catching them and booting them right away. To those who cheated and got away with it, I hope their pee-pees fall off. :D I completely agree with you. I'm just saying that I know why they did it and don't harbor any bad feeling towards them for having done so. In their situations, I probably would have done the same thing.

Would you also teach your kids it's OK to cheat their way through college so they could get better grades and presumably a higher paying job? Or to trade on inside information in violation of the securities laws because it would allow them to make a great deal of money? Absolutely not, but those aren't games meant for public enjoyment.[/quote] So you would be OK teaching your kids that being unethical, not following the rules and cheating is OK as long as it's in a "game meant for public enjoyment" and it allowed them to make a lot of money? Not the lesson I would want to teach my kids but hey to each his own. Let me ask you a question. Imagine you are a 24 year old minor league pitcher. You know the only thing keeping you from becoming a major leaguer is a better fastball. If you thought you could take something that would give you an extra 5-8mph on your fastball and get you to the big leagues, would you take it or just continue to toil in the minors for no money knowing you're not going to make it?

And when you are caught doing it, you no longer look like the svelt, well toned 6 foot tall athlete that I remembered you to be. All I see is a 6' tall syringe stepping to the plate. If that's how you wish to be remembered, more power to you. Enjoy your millions and all the public castration. I wonder if Mark McGuire had it all to do over again, if he would have gone near the stuff. I'll also bet there isn't a public place he can go without hearing whispers. Mark McGwire is a bit on the extreme side of things. Do you really think that in20 years anyone is going to look at Troy Glaus and whisper about how 23 years ago he cheated at baseball? I don't look at Sosa and see a corked bat, I see a helluva a baseball player that tried to get an edge.

Would you also teach your kids it's OK to cheat their way through college so they could get better grades and presumably a higher paying job? Or to trade on inside information in violation of the securities laws because it would allow them to make a great deal of money? Absolutely not, but those aren't games meant for public enjoyment. But if there were pills that would allow them to be smarter in college I would be all for it. What if those pills could cause serious health risks later in life? If they could, I wouldn't encourage them but I wouldn't really get upset with them either. The health effects of HGH are unknown, it's not like old school steroids. I can tell you how I personally feel. I would gladly trade 5 years of "normal" life for 5 years of leading a much more successful one.