Probably not going to be the most popular topic tonight given the gut wrenching loss, but I'm going to be up for a while(see topic in rant). While watching the game tonight I was thinking about the card rotations of the past few years. Dave Duncan must be one heck of a pitching coach. It seems like they take old beaten up pitchers and they resurrect their career in St. Lou. Kile was awful in Colorado (as are a lot of pitchers) but he joins the cards and he's their ace and pitched like one. Morris is good as well. Suppan , not so much this year, but he was good last year. Williams was ok in San Diego and Toronto, but he becomes a horse as a cardinal. Look at Carpenter 1997 Tor 81.1 5.09 1998 Tor 177 4.37 1999 Tor 150.0 4.38 2000 Tor 175.1 6.26 2001 Tor 216.2 4.09 2002 Tor 73.1 5.28 2004 StL 182.0 3.46 2005 StL 147.1 2.26 I could probably pick a few failurs as well (Ankiel, Simontacchi, Stephensen etc) but the failure ratio has to be close to other teams. It seems like Duncan is very good at getting the best out of pitchers who already have good stuff, but just haven't figured out the art of pitching. I'm no tard fan, but I gotta give credit where it's due.