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Leadoff hitter is not a position in the game of baseball. what is your problem, I made a mistake on saying that if thats your best comeback on trying to make me look bad then u obviously have no case in that argument Ok, now it's on. Matt Murton is a pre-prime, cheap OF who's proven he can be a decent, cheap OF. We currently have no RF. Brian Roberts is a 32 year old 2B who's marginally better than our current 2B and makes $4.2m. He would cost the Cubs 2 or 3 good trading chips. Thus, Matt Murton has more value to the Cubs than this trade for Brian Roberts. Second, leadoff hitter isn't a position. It's an old timey way of looking at a lineup's composition (which really doesn't matter much when you look at it). Offense is offense, regardless if it is hitting 1st, 6th or 8th. Finally, baseballs don't travel differently in the minors as opposed to the majors. Pie's minor league career is a perfectly justified method of evaluating his defensive ability. And for what it's worth, 40 ML games isn't that small of a sample size. Congratulations dude your awesome! by the way roberts is 30 so if you r going to turn it on as you say make sure your facts are straight.
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Leadoff hitter is not a position in the game of baseball. what is your problem, I made a mistake on saying that if thats your best comeback on trying to make me look bad then u obviously have no case in that argument I think you're still misunderstanding peoples' answers to your post. Being a "leadoff hitter" is not a meaningful role that a player fills. Jose Reyes isn't a good leadoff hitter -- he's a good hitter who bats first in the order. Obviously, he's the "leadoff hitter," but to believe this is a position/role that must be filled is illogical. And I don't mean to sound rude, but without periods and commas, some of your posts are a bit tough to read. Your not dont worry, but I corrected myself by saying just a leadoff hitter and he came back right after that saying that I said leadoff position which I didnt I think you're missing the point. Know im not I understand what you last two are trying to say, but UsSoccer said that twice to me soley for the purpose to make me sound dumb, which I corrected myself by saying its not a position, but there is a place in the order which is called the leadoff spot or leadoff hitter.
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Leadoff hitter is not a position in the game of baseball. what is your problem, I made a mistake on saying that if thats your best comeback on trying to make me look bad then u obviously have no case in that argument I think you're still misunderstanding peoples' answers to your post. Being a "leadoff hitter" is not a meaningful role that a player fills. Jose Reyes isn't a good leadoff hitter -- he's a good hitter who bats first in the order. Obviously, he's the "leadoff hitter," but to believe this is a position/role that must be filled is illogical. And I don't mean to sound rude, but without periods and commas, some of your posts are a bit tough to read. Your not dont worry, but I corrected myself by saying just a leadoff hitter and he came back right after that saying that I said leadoff position which I didnt
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Actually, Ping said that he'd be the second best CF in the NL. So after Pie & Taveras, there's only 14 others he'd have to be better than. With Edmonds and Jones losing several steps each, I can't really think of too many outstanding defensive CF's in the NL - can you? My bad Tim sorry miss read that, sorry about the You guys thing wasnt even trying to offend anyone by saying that, but what is up with Ussoccer giving me so much trouble for saying lead off position?
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K well this is for multiple discussions. First off: The Murton thing don't be a jerk and be a smart alec because I said lead off position. he is a lead off hitter which would be nice to have. You cant factor in throwing arm to compare Brian Roberts and Matt Murton they play infield and outfield. Murton is a horrible fielder so don't try to tell me which I don't know how good he is that Roberts can be equal or worse than him. secondly: Sorry for saying you guys just know that a few of you use that with Murton every time there is a post about him thirdly: Pie he might be great in the minors, but you are making an assumption that he is better than 31 other CF's in baseball outside of Taveras that can not possibly be made right now in his career.
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Not really, those tools are there. His range and arm are as good as anyone in the game. Every new player coming to Wrigley will misplay them. I think right now, Taveras is the only one better. Maybe...I wasn't thinking just Wrigley, if just Wrigley you could be right. I still think he needs to make better reads though he over runs balls alot! If he overruns balls, that's not a bad thing. I'd rather have a CF'er that can overrun balls that most CF'ers can't get. The only ball I saw him overrun in the OF last year was a ball hit to the gap that was skidding on the ground. He was at full speed and did great just getting to the ball to stop it. He couldn't slow down to retrieve the ball, but the RF was able to pick it and throw it back to prevent a run scoring from first. K well than u obviously didn't see him overrun a bunch of balls this year and also get horrible reads on balls that should be routine to catch. don't get me wrong the guy is a good fielder and its his first year. Im just saying u guys are praising him a little to much for 40 games in the major leagues.
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Ok is it just me or does anyone who is trying to make Murton sound good only talk about his OPS from last year and try to make other players seem like just average? Doesn't that say "Career OPS"? All im saying is Murton hasnt started a full year yet...yet u guys are saying Roberts isnt much better than him yet hes a multi-year all-star and probably one of the best leadoff hitters in the major leagues.
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Am I thinking of a different Brian Roberts? That's awfully steep. Done without a second thought. I must be thinking of a different Brian Roberts too, because that is one lopsided trade. He's basically Matt Murton playing 2nd. That is basically a ridiculous statement. Roberts' career OPS: .760 Murton's career OPS: .820 Roberts just steals more. Ok is it just me or does anyone who is trying to make Murton sound good only talk about his OPS from last year and try to make other players seem like just average?
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Not really, those tools are there. His range and arm are as good as anyone in the game. Every new player coming to Wrigley will misplay them. I think right now, Taveras is the only one better. Maybe...I wasn't thinking just Wrigley, if just Wrigley you could be right. I still think he needs to make better reads though he over runs balls alot!
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Am I thinking of a different Brian Roberts? That's awfully steep. Done without a second thought. murton's four years younger than roberts and has better career offensive numbers. obviously they don't play the same positiong, but including murton in a deal for roberts is too much...let alone topping him off with three other decent trading chips. if the cubs had a glaring hole at 2b, maybe i'd think differently. I definitely think people are over-valuing Roberts a bit. I think that alot of people on this site are overvaluing a number 4 OF at best on most teams to much!
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What's your opinion on Pie, based on what you've seen? Do you think the hype is legit or do we have another Corey Patterson on our hands? Right now, he's more Patterson than anything else. But, he's their best option in CF and until proven otherwise, should be given a shot to prove he capable of progressing. But, he has to work on shortnening that swing, centering the ball, and getting into hitter's counts. He fouled off way too many hittable pitches with one strike and then retired on breaking pitches or inside FBs. Defensively, he's one of the best in the game (2nd best CF'er in the NL). K I agree with everything u said, but "2nd best CF'er in the NL" come on isnt that a little steep of a comment. He played like 40 games last year you cant make that statement right now. Even though I know he is a good fielder even made some very bad reads last year.
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Dont know if this has been posted anywhere, but just some other good news about it All times ET 10:03 p.m., from Amy Nelson • If Brian Roberts is traded to the Cubs, it's believed that it might not happen until the Orioles complete a trade for either Erik Bedard or Miguel Tejada. According to a source with knowledge of Baltimore's trade talks, the O's have had so much interest in many of their players they "have a lot on their table." But the relationship between Andy MacPhail and Cubs GM Jim Hendry dates back several years so if a trade were to happen, it could possibly be much faster compared to other clubs. Rich Hill, originally thought to be part of a deal, is currently not in the discussions. Instead, Chicago likely would send upper-level prospects to Baltimore. Among the names being considered are Sean Marshall, Sean Gallagher, Felix Pie and Donnie Veal .
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Trade Murton Now
rchap24 replied to TakeMeToManos's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
I'm pretty sure Barrett was going to the Cubs all along in that trade, just that the A's had something that Montreal wanted and the Cubs had something the A's wanted, so it was just a roundabout way to get Barrett, IIRC Right, Barrett was an Athletic for a matter of hours. Even though we have agrued if Texeria in the OF would make are fielding worse, I must say I completely agreed with your comment earlier about not trading Murton for just a bullpen arm. In a package for someone better def yes! -
Rockies DFA Steve Finley
rchap24 replied to 98navigator's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Jeff Francis or Matt Holliday please Troy Tulowitzki and Chris Iannetta. I would all about that trade possiblity! -
Elijah Dukes being shopped
rchap24 replied to RammyFanny's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Z, Dukes and Barrett in a 3-way? I said fight...I don't what the hell you're talking about. ;) Hahahaha, but if the price were right id go for him in a sec aka eyre for him! -
Eric Byrnes
rchap24 replied to Soriano12's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
If the Cubs are not gonna play Murton, maybe they can package him in a deal for Byrnes. Sorinano, Pie, Byrnes is a pretty good outfield. If they would take Jones plus a young arm for Byrnes, it would solve the Jones problem and Byrnes would leave at the end of the year saving us Jones 2008 salary. Id be up for it in a sec! -
Trade Lee Now
rchap24 replied to stitchface's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Look at your second post you said "Lee is past prime." the guys is 32 years old and a very selective hitter. With a hitter as good as he is its gonna be tough for him to drop off. Maybe his power will drop off from 2005, but hes a great contact hitter and the best fielding first baseman in baseball. And to qoute Abuck rchap24 wrote: abuck1220 wrote: rchap24 wrote: jersey cubs fan wrote: Soriano12 wrote: To say that a guy that who put up OPS near 900 in a pitchers paradise consistently, is 2nd rate...well that is just wrong. 2nd rate among first baseman. Ranking anywhere from 20-9 among qualified 1B in OPS. 200 OPS points off the leaders. That is 2nd rate. You're far too generous if you think that's an elite 1B. Defense matters to bud! defense at 1b doesn't matter that much. bud. Ha ok how so? if it's that important, why is it the place to put fat, unathletic guys who don't have another position? it's clearly the easiest defensive position to play. Tell why then in little league baseball when kids arent that good they stick the worse players in left and right field. Not until highschool to they take right field out of the mix cause they put the strongest arm there. All im saying is its not that easy of a position to play. -
Trade Lee Now
rchap24 replied to stitchface's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
2nd rate among first baseman. Ranking anywhere from 20-9 among qualified 1B in OPS. 200 OPS points off the leaders. That is 2nd rate. You're far too generous if you think that's an elite 1B. Defense matters to bud! defense at 1b doesn't matter that much. bud. Ha ok how so?

