Sammy Sofa
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Sure, but you only have to pander to them to a point. Talking about Manny in such a way when he's not an issue and months after the fact of him being hired just feels like trying WAY too hard to kiss their asses. Maybe it's just the timing, but this and the whole "that's so Cub" thing coming out at the same time just feel really lowest common denominator, even by the usual low sports press standards.
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Yeah, those meatballs make up the vast majority of fans/paying customer of his team. So he kinda has to put on the PR show for them. He can't pander to the baseball savants of this board, it's not what's best for business. Yeah, but how many of those meatballs even know who the Cubs minor league hitting coaches are at any given moment? Sure, Manny is a [expletive] load more famous, but I doubt it's a thing the average fan is really worried about or even aware of. And if he HAD effectively said something like, "Manny and I have a great relationship going back a while and he's a fantastic hitter who can teach a lot" how is it going to harm anything? What, people aren't going to buy as many tickets if he doesn't talk about Manny like he's an ex-meth head? It's just gross. I don't imagine they'd "have to" to say something similar if they (stupidly) brought Grace back in some capacity.
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And yes, I fully recognize that this is largely colored by me not liking Theo (which isn't to say he's not super smart about baseball. I just find him really annoying and smarmy. I love the hiring of Manny, but I've hated nearly everything Theo has said about it/him).
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I'm literally "worked up" to the degree of difficulty it takes to type these posts. I'm just annoyed at the Cubs either avoiding or effectively taking shots at someone like Sosa, or feeling like they repeatedly need to justify not just the job they've given him but seemingly the existence of of Manny within the presence of their precious, apparently insanely malleable prospects. It's just catering to meatball nonsense that worries over things like Manny Ramirez somehow poisoning the players around him with his...what? Seriously, the vast majority of "Manny being Manny" was just him being odd or flat out having a good time. The number of things you can point to or even argue as being "bad" in his career you can count on one hand. Pro athletes tend to be weird or jerks or combinations of both. Manny seems to fall WAY to the former, but how much of it is anything that he needs to feel bad for or turn his life around over? What should people legitimately have been worried about along the lines that Theo seems to be trying to explain? The PED thing is the huge red flag, but again, I'd rather they handled it like the Cardinals and largely just approached it like, "this is a thing we're doing because we want to." Yeah, talking to the press is a big part of Theo's job, but he could be a lot less wishy-washy about it.
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Look at it this way: if one of the local beat writers had written a piece where they described being "surprised at Manny's hard work" and how he had "turned his life around" and how he seemed to have "found peace" we wouldn't be making [expletive] fun of it for being so awful?
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Because he's a great hitter, he and the FO have a good history together and he gets along well with other players; THAT'S really not that hard to understand. Again, how many people here wouldn't be calling out those statements as BS if they were about Sosa instead of Manny? I don't know, I guess Theo is just taking cues from the Cardinals when they had to justify bringing McGwire back as a co-...oh. Right. The Cubs are a pack of spineless wimps when it comes to stuff like this. Just do it and quit kissing the ass of people who can't wait to tear the organization a new one.
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wut Seemed like a totally normal response.
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Your stance on this is really obtuse. People can change the way they behave. The biggest changes in behavior often coincide with the biggest changes in circumstance. Not every baseball player is Len Dykstra. Theo may be overly dramatic with regard to Manny, but Manny may have made big changes in how he behaves toward others. Then say that instead of the melodramatic garbage he said instead (especially since he was never "out of control" or needed to "turn his life around"). As a whole, the Cubs under Ricketts seemed to have enjoyed spouting really pandering meatball-y [expletive] at times to sports hacks who are going to needlessly shred them whenever they feel like it. Manny as a whole has had a rep of being easy to get along with, especially with other players, even when he's had his ups and downs. He's a phenomenal hitter regardless of the PED stuff; this isn't someone you have to jump through hoops for to justify why he'd be brought on as a coach. Theo should be proud of the hire instead of acting like he needs to explain it away.
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If anyone honestly believes Manny the hitting coach is a different person from Manny the player then I would like to trade this delicious doorstop for your crummy old danish.
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Week 6: Bears (2-3) @ Falcons (2-3) 3:25 PM FOX/780
Sammy Sofa replied to UMFan83's topic in Other Sports
To go alongside this, Cutler's projected 16 game totals based on his play this year 416/611 68.1% 4,469 yards 7.32 YPA 35 TD 16 INT 97.4 rating This is good [expletive]. I'm gonna school some fools at work. -
Or he just says, "he was a good hitter for me and I think he can help coach these players to be better hitters." The rest of it IS unnecessary pandering. People would be (rightly) flipping out if it was Sosa instead of Manny.
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Tell us more how Theo is just cleverly pandering instead of simply being a condescending prick. "Manny, trust me, I think you're cool, I just have to publicly say these insulting things about you because of reasons." And again: lifelong Red Sox fan.
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Fair enough, David. Fair enough.
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"I thought they were hot dogs wearing Brett's shorts blah-blah-blah"
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Yes they were, David.
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"Oh, were those jokes?"
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Please stop ruining jokes.
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Your positronic network is malfunctioning a bit there.
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He's a Red Sox fan.
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i bet laura is cool and hates her brother and father She's a sellout.
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Theo's also a terrible human being.
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The Cardinals, sure, but the Packers are just a good organization.
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Pretty sure Wood is the only person there who doesn't make me hate the world.
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he could be derrick rose and i'll take the 5 win 24 year old Wow, low blow.
