Sammy Sofa
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Cubs will win this one 8-3. -
Sorry.
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I'm not saying that a ton of people are sitting around with active vendettas against Bartman, but you bring him or 2003 up to the average Cubs fan and sit back for some hilarious tantrums.
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Theriot Byrd Lee Soriano Soto Ramirez Nady Baker
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I'm sure theres still a good few out there considering the size of the fan base, but I believe most are over it and there would be no harm in him showing up in public to a game or something. From my experience it's the very casual fan that brings it up any more like it's some relative story. Most of the fanbase is made up of casual fans.
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As many Cubs fans as there are that realize that Bartman ultimately isn't to be blamed for '03, there's probably even more that still hate him and think he's some kind of super villain. I think we'd be giving the majority of a very large fanbase too much credit otherwise.
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So then if those don't count, then it's not an issue of the "most enjoyable playoff run in 102 years" then since there weren't playoffs during that whole time. Can't have it both ways.
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Wait, all of the last 102 years? That was better than the 7 times during those years that they actually made it to the WS? In UMFan's defense, there were no playoffs for any of those. They simply won the league and went to the WS. BACK WHEN MEN WERE MEN.
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Wait, all of the last 102 years? That was better than the 7 times during those years that they actually made it to the WS?
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GOOD READ? YES, I ENJOYED IT.
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Poor Bartman. Good read, though. I'll be curious to see the 30 for 30 doc on him.
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I think experience is the key on both sides here. If you have stars who are experienced then they can overcome a bad/inexperienced coach. I don't have anything against VDN; this was just a matter of terrible timing to have this type of team and a young, first time NBA head coach. Too many times we saw horrible, horrible plays, especially at the end of close games, that were clearly coming from VDN and the key players either weren't good enough or not experienced enough to overcome that. That's not all on VDN, but he's a huge part of stuff like that and has to go.
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Not sure if you are responding to me but who is freaking out over Vinny? Every single Bulls fan for the better part of the last 2 seasons. Because he sucked and didn't have a team good enough or stars experienced enough to overcome his suckiness?
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I think I've blocked out most of the season. I remember Soriano getting a bunch of clutch bloops, walkoffs and singles in the middle of season, but I honestly don't remember him having a hot streak in July. Weird. Wait, was that when he had the walkoff GS? Or was that 2008?
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I'm going to have to disagree. The guy sucked cold butt for a full year. There was plenty of reason to doubt whether he could return to his top form. Not a full year, but your point still stands. He finished the year showing basically no signs of improving. then spring training plus the first two weeks of this season (or thereabouts). Actually, it was basically all of April, which is why I was so let down with what was to come because he got off to a fantastic start. Though he pulled this off in July, .345 .409 .583 .992 with 5 doubles, 5 HR's and and 16 RBI's, yet I don't remember that at all.
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I'm going to have to disagree. The guy sucked cold butt for a full year. There was plenty of reason to doubt whether he could return to his top form. Not a full year, but your point still stands. He finished the year showing basically no signs of improving.
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10 most hated teams in MLB per Nielson
Sammy Sofa replied to Little Slide Rooter's topic in General Baseball Talk
Unless this is measuring self-loathing or lack of interest as "hatred," this makes no sense. -
It's just because the Cubs like to trade valuable relievers to other teams for players who have very little value. True.
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I just love that someone has a hilarious image of everyone in "the ghetto" wearing tons of colored camo clothes.
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Why is it a joke? It was obvious at the time that his year in DC was a career year. And complaining that he can't steal when he "goes cold" is redundant since when he goes cold he's lucky to even just get on base in the first place, so acting like his ability was some kind of added weapon he could use when he goes in a hitting slump makes no sense at all. The stealing ability would be nice to have, but it's hardly essential for him to be an incredibly valuable player to this team. Now he's a middle of the order guy with power who can (ideally) knock in a ton of runs.
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It never ceases to amaze me how some people on this board think the Cubs can somehow trade for a good reliever and not give up much of value.
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Speaking of Cajun Cubs, Theriot's page sponsor on BR is hysterical: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/theriry01.shtml
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He has at least one hit in each of the last ten games.
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Again, it's pretty backwards to blame the guy for taking a ton of money dropped on his lap and for the wrongheaded expectations of the organization that gave him the money. It would be one thing if the signed him in his 20's, but if they seriously expected that he'd keep stealing bases for a while after signing him on the wrong side of 30, well, that's just dumb. I mean, this is the organization that thought bringing Milton Bradley here as some kind of clobbering RBI machine was the right thing to do based on one year of mashing the hell out of the ball. Slamming Soriano for not "igniting the offense" with steals is [expletive] because he can singlehandedly carry the team when he's hot, which is far more apparent than the ridiculous intangibles of a guy "inspiring the team" or "causing havoc" because of his speed. You know what does a much better job of igniting the offense and causing havoc? Beating the [expletive] out of the ball. You know what has a good chance of getting Soriano hurt and keeping him from beating the [expletive] out of the ball? Unnecessarily stealing bases.
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They're still overrated in general in terms of how valuable they are to a team. One can easily have a very good team that rarely steals bases. Besides that, what Soriano can do with the bat is far more valuable than the bases he can steal. It seems that his leg injury last year impacted his performance at the plate, so why tempt that fate again by having him do something that ultimately doesn't do much to help a team win ball games? I'd happily see Soriano never steal a base again so long as it meant we'd get more of him hitting 30+ home runs a season, especially since he's showing he doesn't have to be in the leadoff spot to hit this well. Him driving in a ton of runs with his hot streaks is so much more valuable than being able to steal bases.
