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  1. Actually, it's not garbage; for me that's the only real reason to not go after players like Fielder or Pujols when the team has a serious need for a 1B and a middle of the order bat and they have serious money to spend and even more coming off the books after next year. The Cubs are fortunate enough to be the type of team that can continually roll with such contracts going forward and won't be crippled or hamstrung paying these guys.
  2. Sure I can. He's a younger, better player. You're out of your gourd. If 5/125 is laughably bad for Howard, then there's absolutely no defending something like 6/150 or 7/175 for Fielder. There's just not that much separating these guys. Except for age and better offensive consistency and splits. Just stop and listen to yourself for a minute. Consistency? Splits? You're really reaching now. Really? Howard is pretty notorious for how relatively drastic his splits are. He's now arguably a platoon player with how much worse he is against LH pitchers.
  3. Sure I can. He's a younger, better player. You're out of your gourd. If 5/125 is laughably bad for Howard, then there's absolutely no defending something like 6/150 or 7/175 for Fielder. There's just not that much separating these guys. Except for age and better offensive consistency and splits.
  4. I could get behind that if the contract is 6 years. Sure, but it's not like, say, 8 years, would suddenly make it a crippling deal.
  5. Wrong. I'm looking them up now and I have no [expletive] clue what numbers you're going by. You're using BR, right? Here's Howard in the last 5 years: 2.6 2.8 4.4 2.0 2.7. Nevermind, I see what it is; the formatting was throwing me off and I thought it was 3 players and not 4. Fielder, almost 100# overweight. So that automatically ages him at least 3 years? Don't forget more expensive. Right, because he's younger and better. Sure I can. He's a younger, better player.
  6. So you're saying Howard's production tailed off after he signed his big contract. Huh. No, I'm saying Howard is a rather streaky player with relatively drastic splits who shouldn't have gotten the contract he got. Fielder is a better, more consistent hitter, plus he's younger.
  7. Howard, Fielder, Werth. Werth, almost 5 years older; Howard, 3 years older. And, as I pointed out, the Fangraphs analysis is even more favorable to the younger, better Prince. But sure, y'know, the same players.
  8. Ryan Howard the last 5 seasons: a 14.5 WAR player. Fielder: 19.9 According to Fangraphs it's 14.3 vs. 22. Y'know, a wash.
  9. Soriano was a bad contract from day one, and just about everyone here thought so. Ditto Werth, Zito, Howard, Wells, etc. Wow, I couldn't have asked for a more perfect post proving my "Soriano has left Cubs fans traumatized"-theory if I had begged for one. How are those guys an argument against signing Fielder or Pujols? People knew those were bad contracts because they'd never give you the top shelf production that could justify the backend expense. Soriano hasn't left me traumatized. I consider Fielder in the same class as him, and Howard and Werth. He's not elite, he's just the best available, flaws and all. Go check the WAR numbers and you'll see I'm right. Pujols is simply too old for me to want to make a huge bet on. The [expletive]? Fielder and Howard's WAR numbers are pretty different over the last five seasons. Fielder and Werth are more similar in that regard (Fielder is better), but Werth is almost five years older. Werth's seasons up until Fielder's age he was a 6 WAR player.
  10. Yet again, nobody is saying he sits there actively hating everything and everything about all non-white players. The point has been that he routinely falls back on lazy criticism borne out of racial stereotypes time and time again with non-white players that he has a beef with. Hmm, perhaps it's because the players in question just happen to be hispanic? Na, couldn't be that. It could be. But given how long this has been going on, and that it also occurs with black players but almost never with white players, probably not.
  11. Spoken like a guy who has added nothing to the discussion. The [expletive]? Is this the same guy jumping between accounts?
  12. And you've added nothing to the argument. Actually, I've made it abundantly clear what our issue is with Kaplan. You and HM are just refusing to grasp that and instead just continue to respond as if we're saying he's some kind of frothing at the mouth hatemonger who despises all non-white players.
  13. Yet again, nobody is saying he sits there actively hating everything and everything about all non-white players. The point has been that he routinely falls back on lazy criticism borne out of racial stereotypes time and time again with non-white players that he has a beef with.
  14. This guy is totally Kaplan. And the other one just might be Hollandsworth.
  15. Except that they wanted Quad to "light a fire" under whom? Hint: usual targets. Are you serious? You think that criticism is undeserved? It was a really, really dumb complaint on their parts. They seem to honestly think that a manager screaming at Aramis or Soriano or Z is going to somehow make them better at baseball. Plus it just underscores their oddly masochistic desire to actually see these guys get called out or railed on.
  16. Wait, what? No it doesn't. You just said yourself the crux of the complaint was Quade NOT CALLING OUT THE "LAZY" PLAYERS. It's odd how the "lazy veterans" are an issue when the experienced players are non-white. Hey, remember when the Cubs were wretched and they were trotting out golden oldies like Todd Walker and Jeromy Burnitz? Remember when they got called out as being "lazy veterans" who were "selfish" and "set a bad example?" Oh, right, that didn't happen. [expletive], even Rusch wasn't called out as lazy.
  17. Great contribution.
  18. IT'S AN ISSUE OF MORAL ETHICS.
  19. You and Kaplan's Mug are completely missing the point; we're not saying white players aren't criticized at all. We're saying that in recent years non-white players on the Cubs have tended to be criticized in very, very similar ways regardless of their actual faults. Someone pointing out that Heilman sucked isn't the same as repeatedly stating that numerous non-white players are lazy and selfish. Except you can't point out any examples. Hence the problem. Because I don't have access to Kaplan's WGN and Comcast archives. His diatribes are old hat and pretending like I'm making them up is laughable.
  20. Lazy hispanic. That's one. We've come up with, what, 8 or 9 "Lazy" hispanic players from the same period. Name the last scrappy Hispanic player to play for the Cubs. How is that even calling Wells lazy? This wouldn't an issue if when talking about Soriano and Aramis the extent of his complaining was that they needed to "focus on their craft."
  21. You and Kaplan's Mug are completely missing the point; we're not saying white players aren't criticized at all. We're saying that in recent years non-white players on the Cubs have tended to be criticized in very, very similar ways regardless of their actual faults. Someone pointing out that Heilman sucked isn't the same as repeatedly stating that numerous non-white players are lazy and selfish.
  22. Wait, Mike McQueary gets to stay on?
  23. Calling Prior a wimp wasn't calling him lazy. Few mocked his work ethic; the common tract was that he was weak and fragile, not lazy. And are you kidding me with Farnsworth? The guy was practically a folk hero for the fights and drinking and whoring. And it always comes back to Hundley. The guy was just SO despicable on every level that there was simply no possible way anyone could like or defend him. He's an obvious extreme. Look at players like, however, the "Cajun Connection" or DeRosa or Walker or Burnitz. They all had varying degrees of the "gamer/gives it his all/plays his ass off" reputation, yet scant evidence that they deserved it anymore than the players who get tagged as "lazy/selfish/not caring" did.
  24. Hell, the stereotype of the lovable fat baseball player is practically as old as the game itself.
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