Sammy Sofa
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Yeah, the poll workers were ready to go with the hand counts because they, not surprisingly at all, knew Maduro would try something like this. Which is why Maduro had been trying his damndest to round up anyone who speaks out. But all of those interviews and all the footage of the protests and crackdown, it's all been faked just to make Maduro look bad and to further US interests, right? But then again you don't care because you want Maduro to stay in power. -
Tom...you do realize Maduro and co. aren't hiding any of this, right? That they're claiming a HIGHER number of people killed than what's being reported? That they gave it the kicky name "Operation Knock Knock," right? I mean, of course you do, since you want Maduro to stay in power. You like that they're doing it.
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Izarra served in Chavez government and then Maduro's until 2018: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrés_Izarra And Tom, literally no source is good enough for you. The Venezuelan poll workers who hand counted the votes, some of whom are being disappeared for speaking out? Not good enough. The Venezuelans in the streets risking their safety just to express that they don't want Maduro or don't tolerate his theft the election? Not good enough for you. If you don't want to listen to anyone from outside of the country, fine, go nuts. But you're also explicitly refusing to listen to people IN the country unless they line up exactly with what you want to hear (which is that you want Maduro to stay in power).
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Anyway, for literally anyone else: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/14/venezuela-election-maduro It's getting worse.
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Nah, not worth it.
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Sure, whatever works for you.
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Tom, you have serious problems. Please get help before you die alone.
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Like, for real, this is as simple as I can think to break it down for you: Maduro is bad for Venezuela. The vast majority of Venezuelans want him out. This is not necessarily a specific endorsement by ANYBODY of the policies you disagree with of the seemingly winning opposition party. What it speaks to is how the situation there is so desperate that the people essentially want anyone else but Maduro. That's it. It really is as basic as the people wanting Maduro gone, and the ballot is basically their only way to express or execute that since his control of the military is so absolute. Maduro knows this, which is why he is refusing the release the official voting data to anyone, ally or otherwise, and why he is cracking down so hard on anyone daring to show public opposition or protest to his "victory."
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Blah-blah-tankie-dee-blah. Still just making up horsefeathers to argue against. Only one of us is actually behind the will of the people here: they want Maduro gone. Pretty much their only option right now is to thread of the needle of enough of Venezuela's regional neighbors leaning on Maduro to abide by the election results since his control of the military is so absolute. If they end up wanting to give the next folks the boot as well then they should do so, be it by the ballot or the bullet. TL; DR version: if you weren't such a tankie dork you'd actually be on the side of the people and not a corrupt strongman. NEVER SIDE WITH MANAGEMENT.
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So, yet again, just some variation of, "they're too dumb to know what they were voting for." So altruistic and noble. And that quote is from the three countries that you put out there as "proof" that Maduro has any real support. That's their diplomatic way of saying, "Maduro, it's a real horsefeathered up look that you're putting down the boot on your own people and still refusing to release any official election records. Might want to get on that if you can, and if you can't you gotta figure where you can soft land."
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Yet again you dismiss the will of the people there. Oh, and from your own horsefeathers link: That almost about 2 weeks ago. Maduro still hasn't released the voting info. That they're not openly supporting him as in the post screams volumes. Open your horsefeathers eyes.
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Y'know, you could just lock the thread.
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Dipshit, who are you talking to? Nobody is calling for American or European intervention. Brazil, Colombia and Mexico are all telling him to release the election results. Other South and Central American countries are offering him sanctuary if he steps down. AGAIN, HIS OWN PEOPLE WANT HIM GONE.
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And they want Maduro to step down and concede, so we're done here, right?
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Nope, there's zero horsefeathers evidence for this, and you 100000000000% will not find any, and posting yet another video of someone throwing a tantrum on Breakthrough News isn't evidence no matter how badly you want it to be. Your argument against them winning is little more than, "I don't like it, therefore I don't accept it." Even his closest regional allies are calling Maduro out on his horsefeathers. The election observers, including the ones MADURO horsefeathers INVITED, are saying he stole it. horsefeathers, if you think the opposition results were faked, why are so many people in the streets in support of their win, and why is Maduro cracking down so hard and suppressing all the voting data?
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TOM, THEY horsefeathers VOTED FOR THE OPPOSITION. Like, that's what the people there overwhelmingly voted for. That doesn't make it the ideal choice in a vacuum compared to any number of other hypothetical possibilities, but given the available choices IT'S WHAT THEY CLEARLY horsefeathers WANT RIGHT NOW INSTEAD OF MADURO. I know you'll just patronizingly dismiss it as all of those voters as just being brainwashed or CIA crisis actors or who the horsefeathers knows what, but the reality is that Maduro IS SO horsefeathers AWFUL that the vast majority of the voters there cast their vote for the people running against him.
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But Tom cares SO. DAMN. MUCH. That he....wants them to remain under the thumb of a totalitarian dipshit brutally cracking down on his own people for daring to *checks notes* vote against him for running the country into the ground.
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I think he comes in here and his eyes just roll back into his head, everything sounds like the trombone parent voices in the Peanuts cartoons, and all he sees is this on loop:
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You're still arguing against horsefeathers nobody is saying here. You're still arguing against the will of the Venezuelan people. Just off in your own little world, wildly JAQing off all over yourself: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions
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(Please recall that Tom himself bizarrely threw down The Nation as a trump card, the same Nation that has said that Maduro stole the election, but also repeatedly dismisses any media outlet saying Maduro lost as being controlled by US propoganda)
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So you're just back to saying the results showing Maduro lost are fake.
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Like, you horsefeathers care more about the Tankie college protestors getting their 'gram karma than the ACTUAL Venezuelans ACTUALLY fighting and suffering against Maduro's corruption, which is horsefeathers WILD that you can do with a straight face.
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I haven't "backed" anyone except the horsefeathers will of the people being oppressed you disingenuous, intellectually bankrupt toad.
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THE VENEZUELEAN PEOPLE VOTED MADURO OUT. The right thing to do, as this thread started with, is to lend our individual support to the people bravely resisting against his efforts to steal the election and crack down on dissenters. Nobody here has argued for US intervention, or wanting the sanctions to continue. Just horsefeathers stop arguing against NOTHING.
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Again, they want Maduro gone, and they overwhelmingly voted to send him packing, and now they're the ones literally fighting against his blatant theft of the election. You have no argument against any that, so you just keep squealing in circles and deludedly telling yourself you're the only one that's actually on their side and that Maduro staying in power is good actually.
