Sammy Sofa
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You can't look at the upsides while ignoring the downsides. You waste the highly valuable pre-FA seasons of the young players you already have. You lose several of the very finite number of years you have to try to win the World Series. You take a revenue hit as fans begin to stop coming and watching. Your failure to fill in holes on the MLB roster can create problems for several years down the road. Not to mention you institutionalize a culture of accepting losing and not even trying to win. Thank goodness the Cubs franchise has never had that perception! And losing fans for a few years and sliding down a bit in attendance doesn't really matter. There's no question they'll all come back as soon as the Cubs show a glimpse of being good. To me that actually goes beyond some kind of question as to fans "accepting losing" or not; I really don't care about that. My concern is when it comes to trying to sign FA. Yes, money does most of the talking, but you can't totally dismiss how a bad, bad team is going to impact a player's choice when he's getting other competitive offers.
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2013 Mock Offseason Thread
Sammy Sofa replied to davell's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
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No, then you're just usually not around as much, thankfully. And if you actually care about the Ryu stuff then go read the thread; there's a decent debate going on there. If not, just keep embarrassing yourself by not knowing what you're talking about. I'm 'embarrassing' myself on an Internet forum? Comedy gold. I read the thread and you got called out. It's all good. Nah. Please resume your usual tediousness of being the Aramis Fan of the Bears threads.
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The Bears and the NFL are full of so much [expletive] as to how the Bears handled Cutler last night.
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No, then you're just usually not around as much, thankfully. And if you actually care about the Ryu stuff then go read the thread; there's a decent debate going on there. If not, just keep embarrassing yourself by not knowing what you're talking about.
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Because the team is very bad and this is a prime avenue to improve the team both now and down the line.
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The Cubs suck really really really bad. They have indicated a complete lack of interest in acquiring current major league free agents. They have told us over and over that the only way they will get better is by investing heavily on prospects, both foreign and domestic, and they've come up short in that regards. How do you not understand this? How are you not understanding that getting a 1/3 of their targets is still excellent? It's ridiculous to expect them to get every single target. They were the high bidder on Puig, and they supposedly weren't even given a chance to match the A's offer to Cespedes. Again with the "every single target" garbage; who here is saying that the Cubs could or should sign all of these guys? And I'm sorry, but the "2 out of 6" thing isn't all that impressive when 1 of those guys is Concepcion. I also don't buy the A's story unless we're assuming Cespedes' agent is a complete moron. I'm assuming it means that the Cubs previously indicated rather strongly in whatever they were offering that they were going to stick by the years they were offering. That's the only way it makes sense that agent wouldn't "give them a chance."
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I think you're really overstating it with that characterization. I'd have been happy with Cespedes, Ryu, or (especially) Darvish as Cubs, but to me it's laughable to turn them into some pass/fail referendum. Well, it kind of is when they themselves place (rightly so) so much emphasis on this aspect of team building. And it's not like I'm expecting them to buy everything they say; even just having one more of Cespdes (especially) or even Puig would, as I've already said, make my opinion very different, and that's hardly an unrealistic expectation. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that was the general consensus around here, too. Bottom line, given the guys available to this point they should have come away with more than just Soler (and yes, it is essentially just Soler).
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We've been able to live with the anemic offense. Add bad turnovers to the mix, though -- that pushes it over the edge. It's less turnovers on their own so much as bad hands in general last night. It's bad enough when guys are popping the ball loose, nevermind they're not catching balls right there for them. Davis arguably singlehandedly lost this game.
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Hub's trying to spin this as vindication for his terrible pick last week or something.
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Of course you will. Oh you're filled with confidence after that mighty offensive performance of 249 yards and 6 points? I'm sick of watching my team squander games offensively and look like the Jaguars on offense in big games. I thought Webb, Carimi and Louis played well along with Marshall. Everybody else sucked the big one. This 49ers defense is better then the one we faced yesterday. As much as it sucks when the Bears lose there's at least the consolation of watching you meltdown. Quite the irony that this is coming from the guy who cried about whiffing on the cant miss pitching prospect out of Korea. Nah, that didn't happen. Like I said, you completely whiffed the whole conversation there and, as per usual, made something up. The team has plenty of flaws. The consolation is I can witness spazzes spazzing over it.
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In all seriousness, that was a really roundabout way to talk the main point that some of us are making; that the Cubs, so far, have largely failed in an area they stated was going to be of critical importance: the signing of international FA. As of right now they have exactly one of any consequence, and the failure to sign more goes well beyond the simplistic notion that they only aren't willing to spend enough money. I'm focusing on this area in this discussion, and all of the extensions and land buying in the world isn't going to distract from the main point that, for several reasons, they've dropped the ball so far in a key area in both rebuilding the team in the short run and down the line. No, it's not a huge field, but even subtracting the blind bids they failed to get the job done with Puig and Cespedes, and that's huge. Yes, I know there are excuses; the bottom line is that the Cubs are left without players they NEED to sign and they need to find ways to change that.
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Wow, I didn't figure you'd need it spelled out for you so obviously. The Dodgers are spending, spending on anything and everything. If they only get a few targets from one pool it doesn't really matter because they are in several pools. The Cubs are only swimming in one pool and should be dominating it, but they are not. If you aren't going to spend any effort/money to improve the major league team than you better damn well spend a hell of a lot more money/effort in your self-imposed kiddie pool. The point is that if a team that has no apprehensions about throwing money around is having a similar measure of success at signing International FA as you are, then money probably isn't the limiting factor here. Again, we're talking about international FA signings that include ones that predate the Dodgers' spending sprees, so saying the Dodgers are "2 for 6" like the Cubs is as disingenuous as saying that Cubs are competing against all of the other teams for these signings.
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Probably. Whenever the Bears lose I enjoy that I can count on these threads to cheer me up at least a little.
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Plus I think it's less the fault of "Obamacare" so much as a lot of companies have been looking for excuses to pull this kind of stuff back.
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THE MILK'S GONE BAD!!!!
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Of course you will. Oh you're filled with confidence after that mighty offensive performance of 249 yards and 6 points? I'm sick of watching my team squander games offensively and look like the Jaguars on offense in big games. I thought Webb, Carimi and Louis played well along with Marshall. Everybody else sucked the big one. This 49ers defense is better then the one we faced yesterday. As much as it sucks when the Bears lose there's at least the consolation of watching you meltdown.
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As has been ably pointed out, that's a flawed conclusion based on how the spend-crazy Dodgers have only existed for this last round of international FA signings, while the Cubs have had the same FO through both batches. So the Dodgers have actually pulled of what most were clamoring for and seemingly expecting when Soler and Cespedes and Darvish were being discussed; were the discussions here not centered around the Cubs getting at least 2 of 3? And now all of a sudden that's an unrealistic expectation?
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NOOOOOOOOO, HE'S MORTAL.
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Man, Kellen Davis stinks.
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Daniel Manning, I'ma fight you.
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Marshall, you magnificent sonuvabitch.
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Edit this and wekse will kill you.
