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Pena and Rob Z need some sort of horsefeathering bonus for tonight. Pena threw 56 pitches, 20 or so more than he had in any minor league game this year and Rob Z threw 88, 32 more than any appearance of his. horsefeathers Anderson, for putting these kids in that position. They reset the pen, at any rate. Good job fellas.

I think I prefer Butler over Monty. Monty has so much value as a guy that can go 3 innings or whatever is needed, I think we'll need that a LOT unfortunately this year. He can do that and save the pen, while Butler can probably go deeper in games started than Monty anyway.

Jesus lol When he's missing, its usually not by much. His control is going to wind up OK. I'd be surprised if the command winds up even average, but if the control does take a step forward, that's all he needs to be a starter, with his stuff.

Make it 5 in 5.....(4 hits allowed and no walks too in 78 pitches)

What do you mean?

https://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/861024810759057408 Can we break it?

De La Cruz is at 6 3 1 1 0 6. He's at 84 pitches, I'm guessing he's done.

Underwood's final line was 5 4 4 2 3 3. A bit deceptive though, as he walked the first two guys in the 6th and both scored after he was taken out obviously. Edit: Raisin beat me

Sad to see. I like Szczur, he's solid as a 25th guy and seems very likeable too. I guess we'll find out if he's got a bit of value or not now.

It's your unwavering adoration of the deeply flawed Cutler that makes me second guess your opinions on Trubisky, BTW Cutler is the best QB the Bears have had in most(all?) our lifetimes.

84-86, but Pineda was down 3-4 MPH today too. Statcast or Wrigley issue maybe?

Extremely good org recap here. Down to trade possibilities.

Cutler interview today.....

[tweet] [/tweet] This has been an excellent Twitter day for Goony. On fire today overall.

"Coveted" seems very strong. He can be the Rashad Crawford piece in a 4 player trade for a rental. Or maybe the McKinney piece. But, these guys aren't who make or break deals, so I don't think too much about guys in our 15-45 range. That part gets figured out, its the "De La Cruz can be yours, but Clifton can't be" and higher up the food chain than them, that gets deals done. In this exact case, for him to become MORE than that type of piece, I'd think he'd need to put up an .850 OPS or so, for the entire year, for teams to buy in......He was sub-.700 at both A ball levels and this could just be his "one shining moment" in his baseball career.

No. We should NOT be bad for that long. But, you overestimate our talent level, even in those areas. This team still needs a LOT of help. You think they're not tanking this year, how many wins do you see? depends on how our QB plays and who it is. as I've said before, teams like Denver and Minnesota, teams without holes on defense, and teams like Houston, with monsters everywhere on defense, still miss the playoffs or get destroyed once they get there. they have put meticulous planning into their supporting players, and Houston and Minnesota actually gave up a ton for lackluster quarterbacks in a panic. They thought that their time had come, and that they just needed satisfactory QBs in order to waltz into the playoffs and blow teams away with their supporting cast. the best team planning, the most meticulous attention to detail when constructing a roster, falls apart if you don't have a QB to lead them. And the Packers have been successful with little more than Aaron Rodgers and a couple players here and there. your holes aren't as gaping if you have the important position covered. I'm not about to argue how valuable a QB is. But, we COULD be an 8-10 win team with an unsettled QB outlook. We aren't. And until Trubisky(or Glennon) proves they ARE our long term guy, we're a mess, because our other talent is subpar too.

No. We should NOT be bad for that long. But, you overestimate our talent level, even in those areas. This team still needs a LOT of help. You think they're not tanking this year, how many wins do you see? No, they aren't tanking. Football teams don't tank unless they have a specific QB they want to draft #1, and even then it's incredibly rare to plan to tank in the summer. The problem is they are trying to win games and failing miserably at it. You're right. I shouldn't said we ARE tanking. Its the end result, but its not what we're attempting.

And I've said on numerous occasions this isn't baseball. A true "rebuild" is not needed in football. And yes, a QB CAN change the future. But, you're still sitting that guy this year and figuring out if he CAN play in 2018. We literally didn't draft a guy this year who's expected to start in 2017.

see what I mean? No. We should NOT be bad for that long. But, you overestimate our talent level, even in those areas. This team still needs a LOT of help. You think they're not tanking this year, how many wins do you see?

Our over/under is 5 wins. I don't see us being far off from that. And even our front 7 defense strength has holes. Freeman isn't young, Trevathan has to come back from a very serious injury, McPhee has been hurt, Floyd already has two concussions..... We're not very far along. And the front 7 and/or our OL, with an injury prone Long and 2 mediocre tackles could wind up as spots we need to address early next year in the draft.....