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Severino gets 2.5M from the Twins. More than Maitan got. And really putting the Yanks and Mariners on Martinez and Marte.

My guess is it depends on what pitcher Happ can bring back next week.

The 40 man guys cost what, 200k apiece or so? I figured 15 on the insurance stuff. At any rate, I think we've got close to 50 mill to spend, AFTER Chatwood, and still have about 10 mill leftover for in season moves. 150k per person. So 150k x 15 is 2.25 million. I also realize now my wording was a little misleading, the 15.5 million is insurance AND guys on the 40. But yeah I think you're spot on. It makes me wonder if we will make a move or two specifically with the LT in mind. For example, buying out Rizzo or Quintana's options would shift some luxury tax burden from 2019/2020 to 2018. If come February we're 20+ million under the cap, it's something to strongly consider. Yeah, I could see that. I think the main thing we try is add one year bullpen options, to keep as much off the books as possible next year. We'll still have the same 7 guys under contract next year, but Quintana goes from 4.1 to 10.5, I guess, unless they use your idea. Even with arb raises and guys hitting it for the 1st time, we're in damn good shape. But, I'd figure on as many one year options as possible, for the pen. With a guy like Morrow or Reed, maybe even Davis, to go with them. And I really think we're going to trade for another cost controlled starter now that Ohtani is gone. But, if we wanted to sign Darvish and bring back Wade, we can do it and stay under in 2018 and have a bit of room for 2019, but they'd have to know that signing Bryce puts them into the 20 over range.

I think they're aware they'll be heading over the LT next year. In a perfect world, they'd stay within 20 mill of it, but my guess is they just don't want to go 40 over.

So the Angels are just going to break him.

horsefeathers it, he's not a Dodger and he's not even on a good team. And in the AL. Second best outcome.

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The 40 man guys cost what, 200k apiece or so? I figured 15 on the insurance stuff. At any rate, I think we've got close to 50 mill to spend, AFTER Chatwood, and still have about 10 mill leftover for in season moves.

I don't know where to put this, so I'm just putting it in here. There's been plenty of talk in articles, about our payroll hitting close to 140 now, after adding Chatwood. No articles are crying poor, by any means, but I've seen some suggest that IF we were to go after Jake or Wade, it'd be an either/or type of thing. That we want to stay under the LT.....Which I'm sure we do. But, our LT number isn't REMOTELY close to 140 right now. Heyward-23 Lester-25.833 Zobrist-14 Chatwood-12.667 Strop-5.925 Rizzo-5.833 Quintana-4.1 Total-91.358 Arb Eligible Estimates Bryant-8.9 Hendricks-4.9 Wilson-4.3 Grimm-2.4 Russell-2.3 La Stella-1.0 Total-23.8 115.158 for those 13 players, with Baez, Schwarber, Happ, Almora, Contreras, Edwards, and Montgomery costing about 4 mill TOTAL. So, why is this number so different? Its because you take the average of a contract, not what's being paid out that individual year. We save quite a bit on the LT this year on Heyward, Lester, Zobrist, Rizzo, and Quintana. So anyway, we've got the ability to go do whatever we see fit. And we can do some serious damage AND save for Bryce next year too. We're in much better shape than what the beat guys are seeing right now.

We don't even want the guy, but he'd approve a deal to us and he tells the Cards no, despite them begging him. Their fans are going to go nuts lol.

It’s too bad it doesn’t matter Will the Braves prospects that were released be subject to this money too? The Braves prospects(of which around half have signed already) are subject to either this or next years IFA pool money.

Dee Gordon just went to the Mariners. No idea if Stanton gets moved soon or not. But, its going to be fun seeing how they drop payroll, if its not Stanton.

Damn, he had 9 DRS in 2017 and has hit .217 in his career, .203 away from Coors. (Thanks Clapp)

So you think the Cubs are out on Cobb? Yeah, I do. I think they're saving money for next off season and Cobb's price is going up. Not that this is bad, Chatwood may be better anyway. But, I think they're trying to stay as far under the LT as possible with long term commitments. I figure they'll get one or possibly two bullpen arms on multi year deals. And the traded guy or Ohtani will be cheap financially. Again, I think this is our 5th guy. Which is awesome.

Nothing wrong with this at all. My guess is our other guy is Ohtani or a guy we trade for.

I'm confused. Why? Is there some info on this guy I'm not seeing? Or are you thinking of Julio Pablo Martinez, who I agree isn't likely to make it that long?

Welp, that alleviates that likely non-concern on my end lol

Same here. I am hoping beyond hope we get the 15 year old, 96MPH guy at this point. Severino and the Cuban OFer(Martinez) seem likely to wind up with the Yankees. They were mentioned today with them. I'd take a flyer on Contreras. But using 17-18 money. I'd like Bae. But, I'm not positive he's in the same position as the rest of these guys. His contract was voided. He may not be a guy we can give the extra 200k to. Not sure if we can use 18-19 money on him yet.

Obviously, no one knows a damn thing about what's gone on in his meetings or if there are actually favorites or not. So, looking at this from a normal sales perspective may very well be incorrect. But, its second nature for me and my initial thought is this..... Going 3 meetings on Monday, 3 meetings on Tuesday, then leaving Wednesday JUST for the Padres, where there's a unique history already.....Gives me an impression things are weighted in their favor. I've been in that type of spot before. I knew the other meetings were basically whack off meetings and as long as I didn't bomb, I got the business. Again, everything's independent, very well could mean nothing, in regards to this.

Soto is going to the Angels for 800k, Gutierrez goes to the Phillies for 550k.

horsefeathers, I really don't like that at all. horsefeathers.

Other than throwing strikes I think I Kintzler horsefeathering sucks, especially on a multi-year deal (which I assume he’ll get). I'd be fine with him. He gets a ton of grounders. I'd prefer Neshek, but I'd be OK with either.

That has to be his years money, since they would be a penalty team starting next year? Maybe an indication they are either out in Ohtani or again further confirmation he doesn’t give a horsefeathers about the signing bonus. No, that's next years money. The Angels have 1.2 or so left for this year. They're not in the penalty.