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My bad on the name, there's a mod on PSD with that name, I just got it confused. By the way, Stones exact words were "If the Dodgers are dangling Izturis for Ramirez straight up, you hold off, but if they include a prospect, it's a deal that has to be made". Then he replied that a Cedeno/Izturis infield is one that "lasts for 10 years". I remember that day vividly. That's amazing that you remember his exact words from a random day two years ago. No offense, but I doubt he said that. Just searched it real quick and found this: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=33230&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=stone+izturis I'm telling you, he even said "prospect" not "prospects". Yeah, so one unsubstantiated poster and your 2-year-old memory is beyond contestation. Not saying he never suggested a deal, but I highly doubt he was saying Izzy/ARam straight up, or even close. I posted another thread above your post with another quote fwiw. I'm telling you, he was throwing out different variations over the span of a couple days and one was Aramis for Izturis and a prospect, and then he raved about Izturis' defense and about how we would be set for forever with him and Cedeno.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=33230&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=stone+izturis Someone in the thread mentioned that Stone said Maddux/good OF prospect/good pitching prospect for Ramirez, Williamson, and Maddux, but I also remember Stone talking about a "Aramis for Izturis and a prospect" deal that "has to be made". He was mentioning this for a couple days in a row, so i'm sure he threw out a couple variations.

My bad on the name, there's a mod on PSD with that name, I just got it confused. By the way, Stones exact words were "If the Dodgers are dangling Izturis for Ramirez straight up, you hold off, but if they include a prospect, it's a deal that has to be made". Then he replied that a Cedeno/Izturis infield is one that "lasts for 10 years". I remember that day vividly. That's amazing that you remember his exact words from a random day two years ago. No offense, but I doubt he said that. Just searched it real quick and found this: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=33230&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=stone+izturis I'm telling you, he even said "prospect" not "prospects".

My bad on the name, there's a mod on PSD with that name, I just got it confused. By the way, Stones exact words were "If the Dodgers are dangling Izturis for Ramirez straight up, you hold off, but if they include a prospect, it's a deal that has to be made". Then he replied that a Cedeno/Izturis infield is one that "lasts for 10 years". I remember that day vividly.

Yeah, I'd like Wrigleyboy's opinion on the Cesar Izturis for Aramis Ramirez trade that Stone was saying we should make.

Yes because baseball is played by computers and not humans. Holy crap...you mean to tell me the robots have finally taken over?!?!?! http://www.londondance.com/image_library/17/46/13667.jpg

I'm having a brain cramp, what is psd? Prosportsdaily.com In this case, it was a poster there who heard Levine's report, and that's what he said.

Jim Hendry, ladies and gentlemen. Have you ever noticed Soriano's splits when not batting leadoff? He, for whatever reason, is a notoriously bad hitter whenever he bats out of the leadoff spot, and it's a pretty decent sample size to draw these conclusions on. So what's the point of discussing anything if you don't consider it and give it the chance to influence you?

Who cares? We're arguing that he's an already good pitcher with the chance to get better, not a bonafide staff ace.

Well, there was the actual article saying the teams were in serious discussions, followed by Bruce coming on and saying "This one has legs". And I don't know exactly what Levine said. Someone said 0% chance, so I put that, but then I also read that Levine just said that the Orioles aren't trading him now (duh, probably Bedard first so they know what they need in a package), and that they might like the Indians offer better.

I know this is random, but I just wanted to mention that on the Cubs top 10 for BA, they mentioned that Gallagher had lost 10 pounds from after the season to the AFL. That, combined with peoria saying that Sean ws touching 96, gives me some nice hope for him.

Regardless, getting back Hart for Boom Boom Bynum makes the Trachsel trade a little easier to swallow.

Name me all of these "bad baserunners" that drag our offense to being horrible, when in fact, it's not.

In terms of defense and some slugging, yes. However, people are raving about how much we need his dose of OBP when last year our RF'ers put up an OBP of .373 IIRC. I don't think we can expect Fuku to blow that out of the water, but yes, he does bring other improvements that I think have gone little unnoticed.

Colvin is ridiculously far off from being major league ready. In your opinion maybe, but in the Cubs opinion, I think they feel the he's close. Obviously the BB:K ratio is the big issue, but I could easily see Colvin as the type who puts up a high BABIP season and bats around .330, therefore raising his OBP naturally so that the Cubs think he's shown some kind of improvement in that area. Not saying I agree, but as we've seen, there can be some pretty wacky numbers when you get to AAA, which might be very soon for Tyler.

Or there's always the chance that we could acquire another effective player who's name isn't Brian Roberts.

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To platoon with Pie. Figured we could talk about it here since the other thread is about Roberts. Byrd put up a very nice .307/.355/.459 .814 OPS line last year, with a .826 OPS against lefties and a .809 OPS against righties. Problem is, it was a fluke year in terms of slugging. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6863 Count me in on this mini bandwagon, assuming we aren't giving up anything crazy.

Even though I was for the Roberts trade, i've got to say i'll enjoy the potential of Sean Gallagher developing with us.Now let's either trade for a decent pitcher or SS. And for some reason, Marlon Byrd is actually ppretty good baseball player if he can do what he did last year. I'm all on board for him. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6863

Sorry, but LMAO at Wrigley boy. I think he has to be a regular just playing some jokes for fun.

I think the PSD poster may have lost a little bit of prestige, but he posted: Yeah.. Fat chance they take that.

As far as i'm concerned, the infield before this rumored trade was Aramis Ramirez, Ryan Theriot, Mark DeRosa, DLee, Ronny Cedeno, Mike Fontenot. After the trade, it is Aramis Ramirez, Ryan Theriot, Mark DeRosa, Brian Roberts, DLee. I'd say that's a very nice upgrade. Now this is a little more assuming, but let's say we have dealt Gallagher and Marshall in the Roberts deal. Early indications are that we would trae for another pitcher, likely Burnett, for DeRosa, possibly Dempter, plus prospect(s). The 3, 4 and 5 starters before any of the deals happening would be Rich Hill, Jason Marquis, and one of Ryan Dempster/Sean Gallagher. After a deal like the above, the 3, 4, and 5 starters would be AJ Burnett, Rich Hill, and Jason Marquis/Kevin Hart. I don't see how anyone could realistically complain about those things happening, unless we completely depleted our farm which seems like it wouldn't be the case considering we've only used ONE prospect, while getting a better rotation (which would probably require two prspects more in addition to DeRosa), to get one of the best 2b in baseball who's good for a nice little chunk of wins more than DeRosa. I know the acquiring the pitcher part is speculative, but assuming it happens I just don't see how anyone could not like this offseason, unless you're really stuck on Ronny "Two good years in AAA with an extremely high BABIP" Cedeno.

You obviously have your opinion. But i'd just like you to show me one article before the Tejada trade naming all players involved and one source naming the exact $ amount that Weiters signed before it happened. They've gotten other things out of the blue correct before, as i've had that site on my favorites for 3+ years when I was shocked at one of the things they said came true I honeslty don't remember that exact deal). I'm not trying to be a Great Defender, but i'm just stating what i've known to be facts for the last few years.

PSD guy and "Joey" are the same guy.