MeatampPotatoesMan

you fricking moron barrett

hahahah

someone here thinks he's GG quality at 1B and LF. :wink:

Flawless victory.

hahahaha, dunn is such a goof

That's more like it.

Williamson is not looking so good lately. Reach into the filthy bag and pull out a 0.

Mabry I pledge thee my unwavering devotion.

Ohman, you rock.

atta baby, Jones! earn dat money.

that's all on you Ross! :lol:

Ross sucks. :D

that's fundamental baseball right there. :roll:

me loves slappy

F this. Call the game and come back to the ballpark when ya'll feel like playing. Ridiculous.

In the minors where they belong.

boo!!

i'm glad that throw was offline. i'd rather not have Dunn kill Barrett.

lmao, what a pathetic showing from our pitchers so far.

It's Arroyo and Rusch. 7 runs total? :lol:

When no one knows how to pitch you? Yes, you do get lucky. I'm quite sure all of his hits did not come because pitchers were throwing down the middle because they didn't know where his holes were. When Cedeno tanks, you'll have your proof. :(

When no one knows how to pitch you? Yes, you do get lucky.

I still don't understand how our young players are question marks while teams like the Brewers have all future stars. Murton looks like the real thing and Cedeno has been successful at every level. Jones makes too much money, but is an "adequate" OF. Murton does look like the real deal. I agree. However, Cedeno has not been successful at every level. Take a look at his stats: http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/C/ronny-cedeno.shtml Cedeno got his butt kicking in A ball, put up a mediocre showing in AA, and got it together for 245 AB in AAA. His VWL was two sided. His D was shoddy (that's putting it nicely) and his K/BB ratio was in the toilet. Then he had 80 AB in the bigs. Nice, but even Dubois did well in the beginning. It's not just a Dustyism to say that pitchers don't have the book on him. Cedeno is in for a rough season b/c he doesn't have plate discipline. He carries his offensive woes into the field and we'll be seeing Neifi every day by the ASB. Our guys are question marks b/c our organization has a very poor track record of developing successful position players. The Braves are the extreme opposite. Murton is less of a question mark, given his skillset. Cedeno had one good year. One.

Nope. I'm saying 3M/year (the difference in Furcal's salary and what we offered) is worth having Pinto, Nolasco, and Mitre in our system. Oh and the added bonus is that Pierre wouldn't be around to block Pie. Pierre does not suck, but the price we paid is too high, especially considering that moving Pie to a corner OF spot severely diminishes his offensive value. Murton is awesome. He won his spot fair and square. He has ridiculous plate discipline. Cedeno does not. Low batting average = low OBP for Cedeno. A younger Neifi. Sweet. I could care less about Cedeno's age. It's his skill set as of this moment that should/should not give him a starting job on a 100M club. He's not the SS of the future. Maybe he'll be a viable utility player. The offense just isn't there (based on his whole pro career, not just one fluke year split between 3 leagues where no one had the time to learn his holes). It may not be shocking to find out Cedeno suddenly learned to hit, but it's not something you gamble a starting role on a ballclub with, especially when your next option is Neifi Perez. I don't want Neifi out there. He should never sniff the starting SS role ever again, but b/c of poor offseason decisions, we're faced with that very real possibility.

What, pray tell, does Pierre bring other than speed, durability and intangilbles? How about Podsednik? Reyes? Carl Crawford? These guys are not highly valued because of their OBP or even their defense in most cases. They are all overhyped, overpaid (except Reyes) and overrated because of their speed, pure and simple. It is the single most overrated factor in the game. I'll agree that defense is more important than many feel. Speed is overvalued in some cases, but not in general. It's not like guys who can pitch left handed. :lol: It's not speed that makes those guys overvalued. It's the "leadoff hitter" tag or potential. Old schoolers love that. Disrupt the hitter. A good example of that was Harang vs. Murton in the 1st inning yesterday. Harange threw over to 1st several times to make sure Jones wouldn't take 2nd (1st and 3rd at the time). Murton saw quite a few fastballs. Take concentration off the hitter on onto the baserunners and it's more likely the pitcher will miss his spot. Murton takes Harang deep for 3 runs. Big time knock, especially after that Barrett line out DP almost sunk a big inning (bases juiced, no outs). The big problem with Pods is sticking him in LF (same with Crawford). Huge waste of power potential. Reyes is ok b/c you don't expect much out of SS. Speed isn't the end all, but some teams do overvalue it. The market, in general, does not. The market for any player, in general, is the highest bidder. If there are several teams that overvalue speed and will overpay for it, then the market, in general, overvalues speed. Back to Econ 101 you go. :lol: A market with limited buyers and sellers means that the overbidding of one party can be out of line with the market as a whole. Yet the market for any given player is set by the highest bidder. You only have to find one fool to buy your crap at the price you want on eBay to be successful. Whether or not the rest of the buyers are willing to pay that price, if you want to purchase unique commodity X in an open market and buyer Y is willing to pay a certain price, you will have to pay at least that much to get X. If what you are purchasing is a commodity and there are limited buyers, then pricing is determined much differently. Unfortunately, players are not commodities and therefore each "marquee" player in FA has his own unique market that is only somewhat affected by what happens with other FA's. No, that only happens in a perfect market, where both buyers and sellers are perfectly aware of what everyone is paying and bidding. This is obviously not the case in baseball, which is not a perfect market. If baseball was a perfect market, teams' performances would vary strictly by payroll. They do not.