MeatampPotatoesMan

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love you Jock! :oops: :lol:

Barrett is one sexy man.

hahaha, Rolen sucks.

basehit for Stubble.

He's only hung about 6 breaking balls.

Whoo!!

toothpick

Nice Pick!

hahahaha, nice hustle.

OMG, he had time to do it.

Man Eckstein is homely.

Judging by the 1st inning, it should be "Ump arrests Marshall"

Ponson was getting the low strike and Marshall wasn't. Maybe Marshall's downhill delivery is messing with the ump. :? well there's the outside corner for Ponson too. the ump also missed a high curve to Rolen. Rolen hit his HR on strike five. Marshall got a called strike 5-6 inches off the plate (outside) according to K zone. He did get screwed on 2-3 other calls that inning though.

Jock Jones still sucking it up.

Ponson was getting the low strike and Marshall wasn't. Maybe Marshall's downhill delivery is messing with the ump. :?

That was a nice rebound from Marshall. He could have imploded after getting squeezed and taken deep.

Usually in a contract like this you get insurance. It takes time for the estimate to come through. It takes time to get the union to sign off on this. Guys like Lee set the market and it's not as simple as him deciding to accept. The Tim Hudson deal was done about a week before it was announced b/c of those reasons. Meanwhile you can't officially announce it for legal/financial reasons.

Hopefully the title isn't "Marshall Sent Down"

Give me a break. Pitching has not been the problem with this team, its been offense. It has alwys been offense, last year the Cubs were near the top in HRs, SLG, and BA. And only in the middle of the pack in runs scored. Same in 2003 and 2004. The Cubs have the pitching to win, but not the offense. So are you saying the Cubs shouldn't try to upgrade? That is pretty assinine. Yeah, we'll trade some surplus pitching for Abreu. I'm sure they'll take a package of Marshall and Hill for Abreu. Offense doesn't win division titles. Pitching does. yep. so if you have a chance to upgrade your offense you shouldn't even do it. You really think we can upgrade the offense w/o downgrading some other element of our team? We don't live in fantasy land. Philly will get something valuable in return, not a bunch of minor league leftovers that could beat out Rusch and Williamson for a rotation spot. Fatasy land? No one in this thread has suggested that the Cubs trade "surplus" pitching. As I wrote in the very first post, it will take the best the Cubs have to offer. I also posed the question, do the Cubs have enough? I don't think anyone would advocte trading Zambrano or Prior. I certianly am not. How hard is it to answer, no? The names you threw out are all minor leaguers. There was nothing in your first post about "the very best the cubs have to offer."

Give me a break. Pitching has not been the problem with this team, its been offense. It has alwys been offense, last year the Cubs were near the top in HRs, SLG, and BA. And only in the middle of the pack in runs scored. Same in 2003 and 2004. The Cubs have the pitching to win, but not the offense. So are you saying the Cubs shouldn't try to upgrade? That is pretty assinine. Yeah, we'll trade some surplus pitching for Abreu. I'm sure they'll take a package of Marshall and Hill for Abreu. Offense doesn't win division titles. Pitching does. yep. so if you have a chance to upgrade your offense you shouldn't even do it. You really think we can upgrade the offense w/o downgrading some other element of our team? We don't live in fantasy land. Philly will get something valuable in return, not a bunch of minor league leftovers that could beat out Rusch and Williamson for a rotation spot. i don't know what philly would want in return, and neither do you. that's not really the point, though. you shouldn't automatically dismiss the notion of upgrading the offense just b/c you think pitching and defense wins championships (which isn't true, but whatever). You don't win crap w/o pitching. Never did I say defense wins championships. I'll thank you kindly to not put words in my mouth. :) Hendry doesn't propose fantasy bs trades and hope some GM is stupid enough to take them (according to Schuerholz). He goes value for value. Abreu does not suck. It's going to take more than a couple mediocre pitching prospects to land him. If you want to brush that off as something we can't possibly know. Cool. Why even bother talking about this? After all, it's theoretically possible we could get ARod for Ryu and Cabrera for Jones. It's not as simple as upgrading the offense. It's a trade off. Upgrade one position, downgrade another and/or the farm.

Give me a break. Pitching has not been the problem with this team, its been offense. It has alwys been offense, last year the Cubs were near the top in HRs, SLG, and BA. And only in the middle of the pack in runs scored. Same in 2003 and 2004. The Cubs have the pitching to win, but not the offense. So are you saying the Cubs shouldn't try to upgrade? That is pretty assinine. Yeah, we'll trade some surplus pitching for Abreu. I'm sure they'll take a package of Marshall and Hill for Abreu. Offense doesn't win division titles. Pitching does. yep. so if you have a chance to upgrade your offense you shouldn't even do it. You really think we can upgrade the offense w/o downgrading some other element of our team? We don't live in fantasy land. Philly will get something valuable in return, not a bunch of minor league leftovers that could beat out Rusch and Williamson for a rotation spot.

It usually takes offense and pitching defense to win: 74.1% of MLB division winners have been above average at both. 15.3% of MLB division winners have been above average at defense but not offense. 10.0% of MLB division wiinners have been above average at offense but not defense. 0.6% of MLB division winners have been below average at both. (The 1987 Twins, if anyone wants to know.) Pitching = defense?

Give me a break. Pitching has not been the problem with this team, its been offense. It has alwys been offense, last year the Cubs were near the top in HRs, SLG, and BA. And only in the middle of the pack in runs scored. Same in 2003 and 2004. The Cubs have the pitching to win, but not the offense. So are you saying the Cubs shouldn't try to upgrade? That is pretty assinine. Yeah, we'll trade some surplus pitching for Abreu. I'm sure they'll take a package of Marshall and Hill for Abreu. Offense doesn't win division titles. Pitching does.

Our team will win or lose b/c of pitching, not Abreu in RF.

It's probably going to be a home run derby.