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Lawton fades down the stretch like no one's business. Murton is a perfect trading chip. Great numbers and performance, but doesn't project for power in a power spot. Dopirak has had 1 great year, and is still far away. 1B aren't tough to find, really, and this makes Dope a great trading chip. Mitre is our most tradable P, since he's had ML success, is a sinkerballer, and blocked by Williams and Rusch. I think Rincon and Kotsay are worth that trade. It's a fair deal for both teams. I didn't know that about Lawton, but I see you are right. but how about this, assume Erstad were still playing center. would you trade Mitre, Murton, and Dope for a deal for him and Scott Sauerbeck? of course you wouldn't, but current and career performance tells you that the the players are amazingly comparable. something about being a Beane boy makes people want to over pay. Erstad? I was sold on Kotsay thanks to Diffusion's comments in this thread or another regarding Kotsay. I wouldn't overpay by much, but we'll likely have him for next year, and if we can add a dynamite 8th inning arm that we control for 4 years like Duchscherer, then I think it's worth the proposed cost. Looking at their career numbers shows you they are pretty comparable overall, but Kotsay is more consistent. Kotsay is still worth the price, IMO, because he can leadoff, play a defensively competent LF, and by being able to leadoff would stabilize the lineup and increase the effectiveness of Lee and Aramis.

Lawton fades down the stretch like no one's business. Murton is a perfect trading chip. Great numbers and performance, but doesn't project for power in a power spot. Dopirak has had 1 great year, and is still far away. 1B aren't tough to find, really, and this makes Dope a great trading chip. Mitre is our most tradable P, since he's had ML success, is a sinkerballer, and blocked by Williams and Rusch. I think Rincon and Kotsay are worth that trade. It's a fair deal for both teams. I didn't know that about Lawton, but I see you are right. but how about this, assume Erstad were still playing center. would you trade Mitre, Murton, and Dope for a deal for him and Scott Sauerbeck? of course you wouldn't, but current and career performance tells you that the the players are amazingly comparable. something about being a Beane boy makes people want to over pay. Touche, but Kotsay has been generally more consistent. Erstad had the one monster OBP year, but otherwise not great. Kotsay has been more steady the last 5 years. Your comparison, however, is a little too accurate for my comfort.

Lawton fades down the stretch like no one's business. Murton is a perfect trading chip. Great numbers and performance, but doesn't project for power in a power spot. Dopirak has had 1 great year, and is still far away. 1B aren't tough to find, really, and this makes Dope a great trading chip. Mitre is our most tradable P, since he's had ML success, is a sinkerballer, and blocked by Williams and Rusch. I think Rincon and Kotsay are worth that trade. It's a fair deal for both teams. I prefer Duchscherer, since he still has more time under team control. Since we're giving up a lot of talent that Oakland will have for a while, I'd like to have someone guaranteed beyond next year. Me too, but Beane probably wouldn't give him up, and since Kotsay is the target, I wouldn't get bent out of shape over which middle reliever I got in return.

Lawton fades down the stretch like no one's business. Murton is a perfect trading chip. Great numbers and performance, but doesn't project for power in a power spot. Dopirak has had 1 great year, and is still far away. 1B aren't tough to find, really, and this makes Dope a great trading chip. Mitre is our most tradable P, since he's had ML success, is a sinkerballer, and blocked by Williams and Rusch. I think Rincon and Kotsay are worth that trade. It's a fair deal for both teams.

We've identified Murton as a guy Beane would want. Now who's a pitcher in our system who he'd want, based on his tendencies?

We're starting Hollandsworth, Patterson, Burnitz. We should be desperate too. Do we have anyone who Beane would covet, given his track record, needs, and preferences? Murton? So we put a package together centering on Murton? Would you do Murton/Dopirak/Mitre? Those 3 for Kotsay and a bullpen arm? I'd think about it, depending on who we got for the pen(Ducscherer(sp?), Garcia, Street, maybe even Dote?) I think Dotel had elbow sugery a month ago or so.

We're starting Hollandsworth, Patterson, Burnitz. We should be desperate too. Do we have anyone who Beane would covet, given his track record, needs, and preferences? Murton? So we put a package together centering on Murton? Would you do Murton/Dopirak/Mitre?

We're starting Hollandsworth, Patterson, Burnitz. We should be desperate too. Do we have anyone who Beane would covet, given his track record, needs, and preferences?

Who did I get into that argument with? God, that was funny.... :lmao:

Minds can change. If PIT keeps dropping out of the race and losing games, and the gates at PNC decrease, they would probably dump some salary. Lawton makes a lot for them.

Link for more Well, it's just not our year. ESPN just broke in with an update on the Yankees / Bo Sox game and said that Prior has a slight fracture in his elbow. it's never our year. i'm glad i'm already drunk.

I for one, would like to see Pargo off the team next year. As much As I enjoyed watching him jack up out of control shots late last night, I can't help but feel it wasn't necessary. I just hope that this season wasn't a 1 year aberration like the 2001 Bears were. I feel really bad for the Bulls right now. Last night they played very hard, in a difficult spot, and should have won the game. Next season, I think that the biggest question should be who starts opposite Hinrich. Will Gordon's defense improve enough to start him? I really like Duhon as a player, and I'm not sure how effective he would be coming off the bench. It'll be interesting to watch.

They'd need a lead for him to hold. :? But I'm really glad he's doing well. Maybe his return will be a shot in the arm.

So i turn it off with them down 10 with 55 seconds left, and I find out Arenas had to hit a GW shot at the buzzer?? Man, does that suck. I think our Bulls are done. :cry:

Unless I'm confusing him with someone else, he had his ST stats in his sig, then when the season started, he removed the stats from his sig with the disclaimer that it had nothing to do with his bad start to the year, but that he thought he had proven his point. Lo and behold, Sisco's #s get good again, and the stats are back. So are you saying that because JC removed meaningless ST stats from his sig at some point his overall point which he hasn't budged from has no merit?

If he has a couple bad outings to inflate his ERA are you going to continue posting about him, or are you going to cop out like you did after his 1st couple appearances this year? Isn;t that a little hostile considering that JC has been pretty consistent about Sisco since he was left unprotected?

I can't get over how good Pippen is on the commentary... C'mon Tyson!

Another "dirty" play by Nocioni!!!

I've seen this before this year...they HAVE to hit FT's down the stretch

c'mon, hit your foul shots...

Gotta close it down now..

It's a fantastic game. Unbelievably exciting.

SOLID defense!!

those misses hurt

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