And in 20 of those starts he's going to blow up and be terrible. I could care less about his clubhouse rep. It's one of the most overrated aspects of baseball. There's no reason to repeat past mistakes. He's no better than a 5th starter, and if we're going to bring in a guy who's simply going to take the ball every 5th day, we have about 5 guys who can be 5th starters and "take the ball every 5th day" at a fraction of the cost. Do we have 5 guys who could perform to his level? All of his statistics still stack up well with the other pitchers on the market. We were talking about Meche a week ago, and Maddux would likely be a great deal better than Meche for the next 1-2 seasons. Maddux is still a pitcher who will give you slightly above average production, which is rare for pitchers in this market. Depending on the cost, why not sign him for 1-2 years, and then we can grab a pitcher when a better market establishes, rather than signing another average pitcher now for 3-5 years? He not above average. He's barely average. And I want no part of Meche, either. There are options out there to trade for a picther. There's no reason to sign mediocrity for the sake of it. Maddux is mediocre. I have no doubt than we can find mediocre for less.