Urban Meyer didn't become a "hot name" for coaching AFTER he got to Utah, even with the success at Bowling Green. In fact Brian Kelly has had a longer track of success as a HC then Urban Meyer despite the level of competition. He went 118-35-2 at Grand Valley State with two national titles and five conference titles. Then at Central Michigan his teams in the three years there went 4-7 to 9-4, and currently he is 26-8 at Cincinnati. Urban Meyer had only been a head coach for four years before he got the UF, whereas Kelly had been a HC for over a decade before getting the Cincy job. Not to mention it hasn't hampered Jim Tressel going from Youngston State to Ohio State, so why do you think Kelly can't handle going from Cincinnati to Notre Dame? A fine coach is a fine coach, regardless of competition. Bob Davie was an assistant at Notre Dame before got to be a HC, that hasn't worked out. So this belief that because Kelly doesn't have the assisant coach resume like Meyer he can't and shouldn't be compared to Urban Meyer is ridiculous. Notre Dame would be wise to hire Brian Kelly if they have the opportunity. Are you reading the thread at all or just picking random posts to respond to? I didn't say Kelly was a bad coach nor did I say he necessarily couldn't handle the transition from Cincy to ND. But Raisin suggested Kelly now is akin to Meyer in '04. I just don't see the comparison, save what each did at their last stop (Kelly at Cincy and Meyer at Utah). They were both successful head coaches at schools that weren't traditional football schools (we'll see how Cincy's season plays out, but Meyers' 20-2 record at Utah is more impressive to me than Kelly's 3 years at Cincy, following a pretty solid head coach). As you actually point out, they took very different routes to where they were. That was my only point. I don't see anything about Kelly's history that really reminds me of Meyer in '04. Kelly may end up being a great coach at a big time program, but I don't think it's because he's just like Meyer was in '04.