Get that [expletive] the [expletive] out of here. You just made me a sad panda. With that rotation and an offense featuring the likes of Sammy Sosa, Moises Alou, Nomar Garciaparra, Aramis Ramirez, Derrek Lee, and up and comers Corey Patterson and Micheal Barrett, the future was nice and bright. It was hard to imagine not winning at least 2 World Series with that bunch. It's hard to imagine not evening making the playoffs with that team Unfortunately, it was Dustiny. That preseason, after we signed Maddux, was probably the most excited I've ever been as a Cubs fan, and also the proudest I've been as a Cubs fan. We had finally done something in the offseason, came 5 outs from the World Series and added Maddux, Lee, Hawkins, Dutchvalue (not to metion a full season of ARam and getting Patterson back). The Sox hadn't won in 87 years, the Cardinals in 22 years, the Red Sox in 86 years, so we still had company (which at least to me was comforting. Now we're just alone). And we had a dominating pitching core that would compare favorably with what the Giants have now and could put a #1 or 2 quality starting pitcher out there every night (I guess Maddux was more of a 3 or 4 at that point but whatever). Since then, Zambrano is the only one left in that dominating rotation as Wood is a setup man, Prior is playing A ball, Clement and Maddux are retired. The Cubs didn't make the World Series or the playoffs that year and had a really annoying season, the Red Sox, White sox and Cardinals all won the World Series in the next 3 seasons (not to mention another long sufferer the giants winning it last season). The Cubs have won 2 division titles since then but have yet to win even a postseason game. Good times. can we let 2003/04 die already, at least in this thread?