Or Griffey, he doesn't really provide a whole lot if he's not making shots. he actually plays good defense, but really, those shots have to fall if he's going to continue shooting Have you looked in the mirror yet and come to acceptance that you are, and I quote, a bunch of "godless chuckers"? DJ is a godless chucker. The rest of them can actually shoot. Although it would be nice if someone besides Paul and Abrams figured out going to the hoop and getting fouled is also a viable way to score. Bertrand drives a good chunk of the time he has the ball.