I would hardly consider Loney and Ethier to be "skid marks". they are compared to the guys the Cubs have. No they aren't. Especially Loney. Just because they're young and you don't know who they are, doesn't mean they aren't good. It just means you should pay more attention. Meanwhile, our youngsters either can't hit, can't show up for the games on time, or if they can hit, languish on the bench behind a guy who can't hit and can't throw anyone out. And that has nothing to do with you calling Loney a "skid mark" when he clearly isn't. Yeah, you're right. I'd sure choose him over Derrek Lee. He's fantastic. :roll: I might right now, in two years I definately would.