OleMissCub

Why would you say that? If nothing else is on, I'll put on the Dodgers game on Extra Innings just to listen to Vin. His voice is just so... baseball.

Good catch! You are right, Babe's birthday is usually Feb. 6.

i'm really only doing merit-based rankings - none of this "who do you associate with that team" business. 1. honus wagner 2. paul waner 3. clemente by a hair 4. arky vaughan 5. stargell The viewers went: 1. Clemente 2. Wagner 3. Stargell Big Poison only got 0.3%!!

Ya, Speaker was one of those tweener players that we talked about. Although I think it is more fair to put him as an Indian since he was their player/manger for eight seasons and won the franchise's first World Series in 1920. He was such a bad dude that they renamed the team after him!

Looks like the fan results for The Tribe are already up....fans went 1. Feller 2. Speaker 3. Thome

Aye Carumba! I can't imagine Walter not being on top. For the Twinkies, I would have gone 1. Big Train (400+ wins on a crappy team, with a career 2.17 ERA and 1.061 WHIP) 2. Rod Carew 3. Bert Blyleven toss up between Puckett and Killebrew for fourth. The Indians are up today: 1. Bob Feller (would have had 300 wins if not for WWII...he enlisted the day after Pearl Harbor and was the first MLB player to enlist) 2. Tris Speaker (top 5 CF all-time) 3. Nap Lajoie (top 5 2B all-time)

JUMANJI!

This might help... http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/drysdale-1.gif

People aged much, much earlier back then due to the harsher living conditions. Most didn't live past 60.

It is a bit harder to do with pitchers from the old times because the cameras back then didn't have zooms, so it was much easier to get a shot of a batter hitting in game action than a pitcher in game action. But here are some that can give a good indication of what their deliveries looked like: Grover Cleveland Alexander http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchpete.jpg Walter Johnson http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchwalter1.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchwalter2.jpg Carl Hubbell http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/images/history/top100/1_pr_carl_hubbell39.jpg Dizzy Dean http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32606&d=1196998786 http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18401&d=1178349173 Bob Feller http://www.powerlineblog.com/bob_feller1.jpg http://www.clevelandseniors.com/photos/larrydolan/bob-feller-pitching.jpg Sandy Koufax http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24817&d=1180828506 Bob Gibson http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23768&d=1178586764 Christy Mathewson http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchchristy.jpg Cy Young http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchcy.jpg Eddie Cicotte http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitcheddie.jpg Ferguson Jenkins http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchfergie.jpg Lefty Gomez http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchgomez.jpg Sandy Koufax http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchsandy.jpg Robin Roberts http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchrobin.jpg Chief Bender http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchchie.jpg "Gettysburg Eddie" Plank http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchplank.jpg Lefty Grove http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchgrove.jpg Addie Joss http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchjoss.jpg Steve Carlton http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchsteve.jpg Carl Mays (probably would have been a HOFer if he hadn't killed Ray Chapman with his fastball) http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchmays.jpg Ed Walsh http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchwalsh.jpg Bob Lemon http://www.limun.hr/UserDocsImages/limun229.jpg Hal Newhouser http://members.aol.com/voodookidd/Newhouser/1111_halpitch.jpg Tom Seaver http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/Baseball/Pitching/Images/Examples/Example_ScapularLoading_Good_TomSeaver_007.jpg Three Finger Brown http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/pitchmord.jpg Warren Spahn http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24953&d=1181179631 Juan Marichal http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17186&d=1178584325 Whitey Ford http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32626&d=1197066532 Don Drysdale http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23759&d=1178584021 Rube Waddell http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30466&d=1192493024 http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30481&d=1192506127 These pictures cover over 100 years in pitching and I think it is pretty interesting to see that pitching mechanics have remained nearly the same in all that time.

Here's a collection of fantastic shots of some of the greatest at various stages during their swing Babe Ruth http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hitbabe.jpg Ty Cobb http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hitcobb.jpg Eddie Collins http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hitcollins.jpg Joe Jackson http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hitjackson.jpg Hack Wilson http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hithack.jpg Hank Aaron http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hithank.jpg Jimmie Foxx http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hitjim.jpg Joe DiMaggio http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hitjoe.jpg Lou Gehrig http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hitlou.jpg Mickey Mantle http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hitmant.jpg Willie Mays http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hitmays.jpg Napoleon Lajoie http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hitnap.jpg Rogers Hornsby http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hitroger.jpg Stan Musial http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hitstan.jpg Ted Williams http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hitted.jpg Walter Johnson http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hittrain.jpg Honus Wagner http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/hitwagner.jpg

When former Boston player and then Boston sportswriter Tim Murnane died unexpectedly in 1917, there was a game played for the benefit of his family with tons of MLB superstars from each league. It was basically the first All-Star game. This is the American League team (minus Ruth): L to R: Hughie Jennings, Walter Johnson, Stuffy McInnis, Steve O'Neill, Joe Jackson, Ray Chapman, Ty Cobb, Buck Weaver, Willie O'Connor (Mascot). Kneeling: L-R: Howard Ehmke, Rabbit Maranville, Connie Mack (Mgr., standing in civilian suit), Wally Schang, Tris Speaker, Urban Shocker, Tom Faftery (in civilian suit). http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26369&d=1184622818 A couple of things to note: - Ray Chapman, sitting between Cobb and Jackson, was the only man ever killed during an MLB game. It occurred when he was hit in the head by a Carl Mays fastball. - At the event Babe Ruth won a fungo-hitting contest at 402 feet (Walter Johnson was 3rd at 360 feet), and Joe Jackson took the throwing prize with a toss of 396 feet, defeating Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker and Babe Ruth. - Imagine the outfield the AL team had during that game! Joe Jackson in left, Tris Speaker in center, and Ty Cobb in right. Babe Ruth was still a pitcher at that time.

I think it is time for some more random crazy Ruth photos: Lou & Babe doing....something: http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3781/loubabefj0.jpg Babe warming up (as a pitcher): http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=43541&d=1212114314 Babe with wife Claire: http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=43111&stc=1&d=1211577542 Babe with fans from the colored section at Yankee Stadium (which was in right field). http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=41249&stc=1&d=1209619748 ....OK http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37426&stc=1&d=1205269852 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/features/1998/yankees/galleries/images/5ruth.jpg

"It must be a homer.....simpson, because the pitcher just went 'DOH!'"

I think they've already shut Penny down or are going to soon.

It's good, but the main criticism that it usually gets, and that I think is totally valid, is that it is (surprise, surprise) east coast centric. He spends an enormous amount of time on the Yankees, Giants, Dodgers, and Red Sox, and very rarely goes into any detail on anyone who played elsewhere. For example, in a 10+ hour documentary about the history of baseball, Rogers Hornsby gets a total of two minutes and thirty seconds. Ernie Banks and Frank Robinson get less than a minute. There isn't a single mention about the 1969 Cubs, yet there is over 10 minutes about the Miracle Mets. Furthermore, the diversity of his guests was lacking. They were nearly all New England elites like Burns (George Plimpton, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Daniel Okrent, Robert Jay Gould, and a few others). However, he did have George Will in several segments, which was great.

there was some old-timer who'd always come to Ole Miss baseball games and I'd always hear him scream "throw him the snakeball!!!" I'm guessing he meant a curve...

Well, the fact that Wagner played so long ago and so little film footage of him exists, makes it a bit more understandable how a smart baseball fan might not know what team he was with.

That's surprising. I would have figured that most all knowledgeable baseball fans (and I consider you one) would have known what teams "The First Five" played for. I know a lot of smart baseball fans don't really know or care much about the history of the game, but I would have thought that a smart fan would at least have casual passing knowledge of who the big dogs in baseball's history played for.

I always thought the opening narration of Ken Burns' Baseball series was particularly well written.

I nearly had a heart attack looking at this thread title....thought something had happened.

Dempster

Poor Chinese girl knows that house her family got just taken away.

Wow, I guess not. Good for Shawn.

That Chinese girl just beat Johnson.