OleMissCub

Agreed. I've been showing all these pics to my boys, and trying to describe the players, and the game, with each one. I started showing them Ken Burns' series, and along with your pics, they're starting to get a good feel for the game's history. I'm starting to create a monster though, my younger son(8 y.o.) wanted to know how his OPS+ this season compared to Babe's. I had a tough time explaining the difference between the majors and Pee Wees. That's great!! I'm glad someone is enjoying it. I feel like I'm talking to myself sometimes in this thread!

A photo of Lou Gehrig as a senior in high school: http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/gehrig3.jpg From his Columbia days: http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/gehrig2.jpg http://education.baseballhalloffame.org/experience/thematic_units/character_education/assets/young_ballplayer.jpeg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/gehrig4.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/gehrig-2.jpg

I don't know if there was any league action against him, but did find this: http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/7255/tedheadvn6.jpg

http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=50597&stc=1&d=1219871142

18 year old Ted Williams with the Minneapolis Miners: http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1610/teddyhy7.jpg

That's awesome man!!!! I watched it twice; once to watch Aramis and another time to watch the pitcher reactions...some are great.

Trivia question is probably Stargell.

Be nice if people still made things like this....roles are reversed a bit from this one though: note Frank Chance in the water and Honus Wagner on the bow. http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=48464&d=1217471591

I'd take this team against just about any other team in baseball history. http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/951/1933pittsburghcrawfordsap1.jpg

I know believe in god, and his name is Soto.

I've tried like crazy to find the source for that gif on youtube but can't. I actually like the original gif better where he's holding a kazoo as opposed to the knife.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/execute2587/blackkid.gif

More on Hack. The writer basically plays the same game between Hack and Santo as we are between Ram and Santo. Hack gets a pretty raw deal historically because he was a lead off hitter playing what's usually considered to be a power hitting position. In Historical Abstract, Bill James has Santo ranked as the #6 3rd baseman of all time and Stan Hack at #9.

In 2006, Aaron harang faced the Cubs 6 times and had 35 K's. In the same year, Bronson Arroyo faced Cubs 5 tims and had 25 K's. We could do this all day. Fair enough. Nevertheless, I think it's a wash as far as K's go. Getting back on the real topic, I'd take Santo in his prime over Ramirez in his. Santo averaged an OPS+ over 150 for a 5 year stretch...Aramis hasn't come close to that.

Case closed. Two guys from the NL West in their 1 game sample size didn't have a lot of Ks. Santo ftw. I wasn't the one who brought up Brandon Webb and Peavy, was I?

1965 Sandy Koufax started against the Cubs 4 times and struck out 38 Cubs batters and Gibson started against the Cubs 4 times and had 28 K's. In that same year Jim Bunning started 4 games against the Cubs and had 35 K's, and Juan Marichal had 3 starts against the Cubs with 23 K's. In 2007, Brandon Webb faced the Cubs once and had 4 K's. Peavy faced the Cubs once and had 6 K's.

Santo K'd an average of 97 times a season and Aramis is at 92 a season. I think that's a wash considering some of the pitcher's Santo had to face on a consistent basis. Huh?? Ya know, guys like Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax, Tom Seaver, Don Drysdale, Jim Bunning... it doesn't appear as though his strikeout totals suffered after the mound was lowered. I was thinking maybe the difference between the two came from when the mound was higher, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I don't necessarily think the starting pitching is worse now, but Aramis also has the benefit of facing relievers more regularly than Santo (32% of his PAs vs 27% for Santo) benefit or disadvantage? You can say that Santo got to face tired starters more often than Aramis. I'd rather face a slew of good relievers than face Bob Gibson or Sandy Koufax in their prime four to five times a year, tired or not.

Santo K'd an average of 97 times a season and Aramis is at 92 a season. I think that's a wash considering some of the pitcher's Santo had to face on a consistent basis. Huh?? Ya know, guys like Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax, Tom Seaver, Don Drysdale, Jim Bunning... Ben Sheets, Pedro Martinez, Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, Josh Beckett, Brandon Webb, Jake Peavy.... I guarantee you that Santo faced the monsters of his era more often than Ramirez faces those guys you listed. There were less teams back then and four man rotations.

Santo K'd an average of 97 times a season and Aramis is at 92 a season. I think that's a wash considering some of the pitcher's Santo had to face on a consistent basis. Huh?? Ya know, guys like Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax, Tom Seaver, Don Drysdale, Jim Bunning...

This was a photo taken by Casey Stengel himself. The writing on the back was written by Casey too. http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=50500&stc=1&d=1219760721http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=50501&stc=1&d=1219760736 The best part: "Commodore Hotel - at breakfast - after which he went to our stadium and mopped up with us! NOW THAT WAS NICE? Awesome that Casey wrote the same way he talked.

Santo K'd an average of 97 times a season and Aramis is at 92 a season. I think that's a wash considering some of the pitcher's Santo had to face on a consistent basis.

Pujols has a chance to surpass Gehrig as the greatest 1st baseman ever. They are remarkably similar players. Check out their 162 game avgs against each other: Gehrig: .340/.447/.632, 179 OPS+, 37 HR, 40 doubles, 12 triples, 149 RBI, 141 Runs Pujols: .334/.425/.622, 169 OPS+, 42 HR, 44 doubles, 2 triples, 127 RBI, 124 Runs Now, of course, Gehrig put those average figures up in over 8000 AB's, Pujols is around 4500. He has a long way to go, but it is possible he'll pass Gehrig and Foxx. He must have many more seasons of dominant numbers though to achieve that.

I think most serious students of baseball history already have A-Rod in their top 15 all-time (I certainly do) and that will only go up. I suspect that by the time he is retired, he will be ranked in the 4-7 range by most and perhaps even higher by some.

Posted these before, but hey, I'll post them again: http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1695/ronnieswing2ue0.gif........ http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/ronthrow.gif........http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/ronpick3.gif http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/rond.gif........http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9922/santofield3pb9.gif

Stanley Frank Musial, candidate for greatest living player. 162 game avg: .331/.417/.559, 159 OPS+, 25 HR, 39 doubles, 9 triples, 104 RBI, 104 runs, 86 walks 2nd all-time total bases: 6134 3rd all-time runs created: 2562 3rd all-time extra base hits: 1377 3rd all-time doubles: 725 4th all-time base hits: 3630 6th all-time RBI: 1951 6th all-time games: 3026 9th all-time runs: 1949 9th all-time at bats: 10972 12th all-time walks: 1599 http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan2.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan12.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan13.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan14.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan15.jpg Catcher is Roy Campanella http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan16.jpg Jackie Robinson is the baserunner http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan6.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan4.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan-1.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan11.jpg Hard for us to imagine that an MVP award winner would work at a grocery store in the offseason, but Musial did for a time: http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan19.jpg Enlisting in the Navy for WWII: http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan17.jpg With wife Lillian (he married her on his 19th birthday) and child: http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan18.jpg with Koufax and Spahn: http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan10.jpg with Mickey: http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan3.jpg with Mays: http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan8.jpg with Mantle and Maris: http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan9.jpg with Tris Speaker and Paul Waner: http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan7.jpg with Ty Cobb: http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/stan5.jpg http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7788/stangifqf7.gif game footage of Musial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GsQ9juMGXA