It's wrong to hate an opposing player with good defense? I'd find it as more of a compliment than anything else. If that is what it is, sure. It seems most of my Cub fan friends hate him for being pompous or something. I can't remember him doing anything against the Cubs. Nice shot Pie - wow he got into that. I know you mean well, but you might want to tread lightly in here as a Cards fan. Game threads tend to get dicey. understood - thanks I know it will smell like BS, but being from Illinois and having a lot of good friends in Chicago, I root for the Cubs when it doesn't matter to the Cards. And I miss Marquis. There I said it. :twisted: