I do think it was interesting that the original article on espn (that Neyer quotes) didn't say that all those former All-Stars that aren't on the roster, with almost no exception, aren't worth their current salaries. The Pirates still suck, but does anyone think the people they've let go in the last few years have been bad moves? Eventually you have to forgive them for trading Ramirez, etc, right? Re the Ramirez trade - the original intent was to trade Benson, who was making about the same money and had worn out his welcome. Supposedly there was a deal in place, but then he got hurt. The Ramirez thing was thrown together rather quickly, and the results speak for themselves. The Nady trade looked very good tonight. This is going to be an interesting off season for us, especially with the words of intent to spend. There's no firm number. If we want to get better, we need to go outside the organization - there's really no one @ AAA ready to come up (Although recently aquired John Bowrker looks like he'll be considered for RF next year.) What we need is pitching. But, then who doesn't. We're not going to get Cliff Lee. I wonder if we can trade for a pitcher near the end of his arbitration clock.