I remember the roundtable, as well. The moderator was pleased with what both sides had so say. It's hard to capture voice tone and such in print, and I'm sure Gary came off more harsh than it seemed. Back in March, I did a feature package on the whole scouts vs. stats thing _ you'd be surprised at how many people in the our general readership had no idea such a debate existed (we're a very specialized group here). In any event, Gary gave me a quote that said that the "work these (stats) people have done is phenomenal." He also told me that when he picks up a stat sheet at the ballpark, the first thing he looks at is on-base percentage. I have no reason not to believe him on that, and again, look at his track record over time. It's pretty good. As a whole, though, the Cubs really do need to start looking at the more sabermetrically oriented stats and how to apply them. You balance that with good scouting, and you've got something.