ND plays a 3-4. Which are the back 7? A handful of ND DBs, including 3 safeties, are on NFL rosters. And Manti will be. And Gary Gray has been incredible this year (admittedly, for the first time in his 4 years, though his leg injury messed him up). I don't know how much is development, how much is different systems, etc. The seniors, for example, have played the 4-3, 3-4, 4-3, 3-4 in their 4 years. And last year was Tenuta's 4-3, which is a different animal and there was a lot of in-fighting between Tenuta and Brown b/c their systems were opposite ends of the spectrum. Some people close to the team are saying how happy the DBs are to just be playing in a system where all the coaches agree. Yes, if you're just looking at the screen, ND's talent hasn't looked great at times. But I don't trust your eye for talent more than Rivals. Rivals says ND has as much talent on its roster as any team not named USC and maybe Florida. So if Kelly is really the great coach he's supposed to be, he'll turn that talent into wins. If not, some other guy will be in SB in 3-5 years. Hopefully Kelly leaves the cupboard as "bare" as Weis did. yeah but if weis wasn't properly developing the talent, you can't say "well kelly is the coach now and this senior was a 4 star guy coming out of high school, so kelly should be able to make him good." he's supposedly had three years of wasted development, so he's probably going to still suck even if vince lombardi rises from the grave to coach him. plus rivals star rankings are only good to a point. here are some rankings from 2002-06: oklahoma: 2002: #7 2003: #4 2004: #8 2005: #3 2006: #9 boise st: 2002: not ranked in top 50 2003: not ranked in top 50 2004: not ranked in top 50 2005: not ranked in top 50 2006: not ranked in top 50 based on those results, boise st did not play in the 2007 fiesta bowl and certainly did not beat oklahoma. plus, look at the guys boise st are getting: naanee, ian johnson, ryan clady, jared zabransky, kyle wilson... all those guys were rated as 2-star players coming into their program. are they that amazing that they're coaching mediocre athletes into very productive college players and (in a couple of cases) first round nfl draft picks? probably not. i mean, they do a great job there, but chances are they're getting guys who fall through the cracks and who should be ranked higher than they are by the scouting services.